Geographical location

[Siderite]

Usually this side of the forum gets quite heated with politics and religion, so I thought I would introduce a lighter discussion topic, alongside the music thread.

I was discussing with someone a while back about whether Scunthorpe is northern. I have always felt northern as a Scunny lad, but this person insisted it wasn’t because of the Lincolnshire setting.

Yes, we’re in Lincolnshire, but we’re more northern in latitude than Sheffield, Doncaster, Manchester and Liverpool. I have always felt closer to Hull, Leeds and Sheffield than bonafide Midlands cities like Nottingham, Derby or Leicester. We’re culturally more akin to them, I feel, we have northern accents and cultural signifiers of the north.

However, I was curious as to what others think on the matter?

I am aware the very north (Newcastle, Carlisle, Sunderland etc) see anything south of Scotch corner as southern, but I definitely see us as northern as the Mancs, Scousers, Yorkies and co. For me, the north ends at Gainsborough, carries along by Sheffield to Crewe, incorporating northern Derbyshire (Chesterfield, Glossop, Buxton) and Nottinghamshire, maybe (Misterton).

[Greylag]

To a Shetlander,anything south of Wick is southern. To a Londoner, anything north of Potters Bar is the frozen North.

[Iron-awe]

Agree Siderite I feel the same and also regard the three cities you mentioned as more our neighbours and closer culturally then Midlands cities. Our daughter lives in Leeds and as a result we spend a lot of time there socially and it’s a top place with great restaurants, bars and night life plus we always find the people very friendly and welcoming. Some good beer on offer too.

[TwoWrights]

Anywhere south of the Humber is southern. ;-)

[Siderite]

Well, it’s a good job Scunny is further north than mouth of the Humber, eh? ;-)

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[TwoWrights]

Siderite wrote:

Well, it’s a good job Scunny is further north than mouth of the Humber, eh? ;-)

Anywhere south of that is practically French! 😜

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[Northumbiron]

To a Geordie Gateshead is the South!

True story. When I married Mrs NI we were both teaching in the same school in Newcastle. When they asked us where we were going to live we told the other staff we’d bought a house south of the River Tyne. They were genuinely aghast, as was my father in law who saw it as akin to moving to a third world country!

Saw an interesting map of the UK showing what was captioned “the real North/South divide. The line ran pretty much from Grimsby down towards Notts and Derby, then south of Birmingham towards Bristol. Everything S & E of this being the affluent south. Everything N & W being the impoverished north.

So maybe it’s not a geographical issue but a sociopolitical one?

[Siderite]

I am not having it that Shrewsbury, Birmingham or Hereford are northern! :-)

[TwoWrights]

Siderite wrote:

I am not having it that Shrewsbury, Birmingham or Hereford are northern! :-)

Gloucester City play in the National League North, and I can remember Cambridge United playing in the northern section of the JPT, bizarre. 🙄

[Northumbiron]

Case in point.

That’s because there are more southern teams in the National League.

Why?

Probably to do with more money being fed into them.

Those big money earners need something to do with their wad now the 45p top rate has been abolished!

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