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Nothing will change next Season if Dean still in charge.
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Pugh booked after 10 minutes meant he had nothing to offer thereafter.
Can we get Whitehouse back or doesn’t Jimmy rate him?1 user thanked author for this post.
Haven’t bothered listening myself, but he has spoken.
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He claimed they didn’t listen to him and there was no difference between part time footballers and full time (only on a Tuesday). To his credit he apologised for not being good enough but if we start poorly again with his players its not a done deal that we’ve finished dropping
I’ve said before that IMO the players have little or no respect for Dean. All of them, even the youngsters, have been FT professionals for longer than Dean and clearly think they know better. Maybe they do and that’s why they don’t listen.
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Your dropping back into the old Lawrie McMenemy routine again cass, have you forgot already 🤔
Yes, it’s an age thing. What day is it?
TBF I did remember I’d said it before so some bits are still working.1 user thanked author for this post.
Retain the Shrimpt.
We have enough anonymous MFs. Let The Cods have him and get somebody in that you can see affecting the game. (Not the way Pugh does though)
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Our midfield has been in decline over the past few seasons but I strongly believe this is the worst midfield we have had over the last sixty odd years. Can’t understand why Pugh has been given a contract, he’s a liability and didn’t understand why Dean let Whitehouse go out on loan. I hope we keep Whitehouse and Butterfield and do hope Ogle stays. Robertson looks promising as does Shrimpton but I don’t believe that they are good enough or have enough experience to be first choices. I’m not sure on Beeston although he did look to be improving until injured and I think if O’Malley plays definitely not as full-back but played more as a winger, his crosses and free kicks are his best attributes.
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It’s already been announced what we’re doing to some extent.
Pugh has already been offered a new deal
Shrimpton has had his additional year activated on his contract
Nat Wallace, Josh Robertson, Sellers-flemming and Poulter have been offered deals and were said to be close to signing a few weeks backElliot, Carver, Boyce, Ogle, Butterfield and Chapman are under contract for next season
Foster is said to have suitors and sounded like to me that Dean is expecting him to go. Out of the others I would keep Sembie Ferris, Richards Everton, Gallimore, Moore-Billam and maybe O’Malley and all the others can piss off, including Rance who’s not only a sick note but utter shit.
Going slightly off topic but why did Dean play Leake when he’s due to go back to Hull City ?. I would have thought it would have made more sense to start O’Malley.
I didn’t really get that personally.
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Beestin is under contract too; he’d be one of the first out of the door for me along with O’Malley. Those lads are conditioned to losing, along with Tom Pugh who hasn’t displayed enough for me to warrant a new deal
For the rest of the players, the first thing I’d be doing if I was Dean is getting them 1-1 and asking them why they want to stay And what they can offer. If the answers aren’t satisfactory then they’d be going on the transfer list.
This is one of the worst Scunthorpe United teams in our history and they have downed tools for a good part of this year. They have got away lightly in my opinion.
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Beestin has picked up injury after injury and even before his spate of injuries he was declining. Only reason I’d keep O’Malley is because he’s got a good enough quality left foot and is versatile which we’ll need for next season.
I will however say I don’t think he’s a full back but having utility players with good enough ability who can cover 3 or 4 positions can’t be so easily dismissed.
I thought he did pretty well in CM under Nelson when we were hit with injuries. I don’t think Dean rates him anyway so don’t think he’ll be staying around regardless of what I think.
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Beestin – the new Hallam?
Sorry but, for me, Shields is another from the Beestin school of ‘how to show flashes of excellence approximately once every twenty minutes or so.’2 users thanked author for this post.
One of the most frustrating things for me les. We have players lacking ability and we have to accept that, blame the recruitment and question their selection. But players that have the skills to play at NL level and higher but choose to show that ability all too rarely I just don’t understand. Can we send them to the steelworks for a week of nights to show them how lucky they are (and what’s in the pay packet) or is that not allowed.
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Couldn’t be a coaching issue, could it?
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At some point, we are going to have to realise that just changing all the players every 6 months isn’t going to solve our problems. Where’s the coaching? When is a manager going to improve some players and get more out of them? What about the people signing the players and scouting new ones?
This endless churn just creates instability.
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God forbid Tom Pugh is in our starting midfield next season.
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I can’t see Butterfield staying anyway. Dean the other day said he was targeting people who had good experience that basically weren’t passed it, as he passed comment on us having “too many players like that” at the club and he’s to go down a different route.
I read 2 or 3 weeks back that Rance who was not only signed injured was also on £1,500k a week. That comment was made by Yeovil’s chairman on twitter who were also in for him.
Butterfield would be 3 or levels above the other players at this level but as you say les, I bet he’s on a fair wedge and I honestly can’t see his game lending it’s self to that level of football.
I don’t think he’ll stay anyway in all fairness. If we’re honest Butterfield really is a league 2 player and could quiet easily play at lg 1 level. I’d be surprised if he didn’t have football league offers.
I expect Butterfield, Beestin, Rance and Hallam to all go. Daniel and Feeney you can put in the same bracket really, we could do with a clean sweep.
Shields can go as well for me…he’s got good ability but is far too patchy which is probably why we got him on a free from Barnet in the first place.
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At some point, we are going to have to realise that just changing all the players every 6 months isn’t going to solve our problems. Where’s the coaching? When is a manager going to improve some players and get more out of them? What about the people signing the players and scouting new ones?
This endless churn just creates instability.
The coaching aspect is a good point. We’ve had players look utter dross or bang average and go on to significantly improve elsewhere. Hill/Hurst in particular are good football league managers, why could they not turn the tide?
Our failures are systemic and pass from one manager to the next and one group of players to the next. Hopefully Hilton can change the culture at the club; No mean feat.
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