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How many people would continue working for the same company with a 65% pay cut?
(Assuming all information posted is correct)But that’s pretty much my point. He’s fully entitled to go elsewhere if he thinks he can find a better offer. So let’s not pretend that he or SUFC should base the relationship on anything more than a financial transaction.
The days of Swann & Hilton paying way over the odds for players are gone, we have to be realistic. If Butler thinks his money is better spent elsewhere, that’s his lookout.
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I would put money on no-one that visits this site has ever signed up to a 65% wage cut.
If he had been offered a 35% wage cut and had declined it most folks would have just said thanks for the memories Jacob and wished him well.
If the estimated figures are broadly true then no offer would gave been more respectful than the one reported.
If Butler wants to go a different way that’s absolutely fine but just saying thanks and bye would have been better than making an offer that was never going to be considered.
I get that Butler is new to this and perhaps deserves to be cut some slack but surely Turnbull and/or the Directors responsible for football should have given him some better advice on this one.
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I would put money on no-one that visits this site has ever signed up to a 65% wage cut.
If he had been offered a 35% wage cut and had declined it most folks would have just said thanks for the memories Jacob and wished him well.
The scale of the reduction says more about the money that was being spent under the previous regime I reckon.
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If you believe Butterfield’s wife (and there’s no reason not to), it was stated he was offered slightly over minimum wage. That’s £20,820 a year. Let’s be generous and say he was offered £30k a year, a 65% reduction would have meant he was on roughly £86k a year. We signed him in the NL, where the average salary is (according to a quick Google) between £1 – £1.5k a week. So he was on £1.65k a week, a little over the average wage for a NL footballer.
That doesn’t scream paying way over the odds to me, especially for a player of his quality…he was signed under Swann long after the purse strings were tightly sealed.
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But we don’t know what he was on under Hilton. I’m sceptical about this ‘just over the minimum wage’ myself. ‘65% cut’ hasn’t been verified by anyone either. Not suggesting his wife is making things up but the club haven’t verified it. Anyway, time to move on from this episode IMO.
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I’m not going to blame Butler at all. Just the head of football operations and Michelle in this case but like someone said we should give some slack in her case being her first time at the rough end.
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And i consider that to be a good thing instead of Butterfield taking any blame, how many times we’ve wondered what’s gone on well this time we have so thank you Mrs Butterfield. Sceptical well the club could deny it, not like there’s no director on the tuther side who’s seen her posts.
Oh yeah, completely forgot he signed an extension at the start of the season under Hilton! Ignore me, carry on…
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Maybe that’s where there was also a bit of a sting in this for him, too.
There’s no doubting that the Hilton legacy will lead to a two-tier wage structure this summer but equally I’d expect – even hope – the club listens to offers for players on Hilton money, particularly Roberts.
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Butterfield signed a 2 year deal under Swann, long after he had stopped splashing the cash as BLT said. There was no extension signed under Hilton so why would he have been paid different under Hilton Deerey?
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for us to question some decisions that are made by management rather than just ‘happy clap’. After all isn’t that what some members of this forum criticised the ‘Hilton lovers’ for doing? As fans and season ticket holders we are entitled to express disappointment at losing our best 2 players, especially when it appears one of them was avoidable.
You obviously have not read Butterfield’s or his wife’s statement 64 as certainly neither come across as classless. It’s never great to see contracts discussed publicly but I do think some context was probably required if the reported figures are accurate. I’d say Butterfield’s statement is one of the most dignified I’ve read from any departing player and shows why he was so highly thought of by fans and his teammates.
Moving on I am delighted we have signed Evan’s on a 2 year contract. With Kougan and (hopefully) Boyce also on board that’s a solid defence.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but on the Podcast, I recall Michelle Harness saying she left the football operations to two directors. You can guess all you like if that is true, but in judging her actions I get the sense that she isn’t treating the Club like her play-thing and meddling in all areas.
It was appropriate she had a strong influence / decision in the Management structure, Manager and Playing Budget but I think she is leaving the football side to the people she believes have fooball nous.
Would SUFC have existed without Mrs Harness and her efforts?
Getting to what is perceived to be a sustainable operation was always going to be difficult and uncomfortable; players leaving are examples of that journey. When you don’t have all the information, a bit more consideration should be in order before passing judgement and deciding who to criticize.
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