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What happened today was exactly what David Hilton predicted would happen when he told those present at the February fans forum that Swann had ceased channels of communication.
Hopefully common sense will now prevail though it is my opinion that we saw little of that in the 10 year tenure.
It would be great if personal agendas could be put aside or at least find different outlets for speculation dressed up as facts.
I’m not going to suggest that Swann is not to blame, but why do people take everything that DH sates as factual?
His actions to date, and the problems with wages, payment of debts, CCJ’s etc etc, do not point in that direction.
We will continue to be in the dark, hoping and praying, for the next 6 months.
I really do hope that they can resolve the issues between them and that DH stands up to his responsibilities as the owner of our club and starts acting like he should.
We’ve just got rid (nearly!!) of one bad owner, we don’t want another one.
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But at the level we now find ourselves, are we likely to get anyone other than this type of person?
Would Alan Hardy have been any different?
Would a community owned club have the resources to get back into the Football League?
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You would think that with some of the comments on this forum that DH does everything and makes every decision without using or relying on the expertise of others. Certain individuals making mountains out of molehills and being mischievous to say the least. For some it gives them the eternal buzz.
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If you believe Hilton has the financial clout to get the deal done, it should all be plain sailing
Why would it ?. Swann insists on getting 1.5mill upfront as he stated himself in a recent article. Hilton stated he found issues after going through it all more closely and found some things which needed sorting. Swann refused to sort the issues out, 1 being that unregistered strip of land.
I wouldn’t hand over 1.5mill upfront if the other party isn’t willing to sort said issues out, who in their right mind would ?
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Topics: 67Quick summary for those short of time.
Everyone was wrong apart from 64.
Everyone is an idiot apart from 64.
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The problem with Fansy’s analysis is that the vast majority of us, scattered as we are across the globe, have no way of knowing which rumours are facts, or which facts are rumours.
If those posters who profess to be “in the know” were more forthcoming with their sources people might take them more seriously.
Anyone thinking a judge would call this yesterday was an idiot,there were those who thought we’d be kicked out and those who think Dave is god that thought a 1st hearing would go through this in a few minutes in court and throw Swann’s claim out .They were all wrong, then we have those that don’t care either way as long as they can tell people to shut up and somehow claim they were right to do so , they were also wrong.
Then they are those who just repeat facts that people try to wrongly lump in with some or all of the above ,they are right.
The last group are idiots, those who see facts and call them rumours
I would add, repeating what Swann or Hilton says is not repeating facts ,it’s repeating what they say ,which, may or may not be factFor the benefit of us idiots could you give a brief summary of the facts that you know are facts. No rumours please.
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Would a community owned club have the resources to get back into the Football League?
Gazes enviously in the direction of Exeter City, AFC Wimbledon, Newport County, or indeed Motherwell & St Mirren.
Always advocated for supporters to have a stake in their football clubs, however the problem tends to be when they are fully owned, a glass ceiling is reached.
Newport are facing a deficit in their operational budget and lost £1.2m last year. Currently seeking investment.
Portsmouth supporters- even with their substantial fan base- had to go cap in hand to Disney.
Scarborough, and Darlington especially are struggling to escape, even this level.
Exeter have bucked the trend in recent years with their fantastic youth set up.
Maybe the answer lies abroad with German 51/49 model.
Portsmouth supporters- even with their substantial fan base- had to go cap in hand to Disney.
Agree with some of your points but not sure that’s an accurate representation – I think a more balanced view is that the Disney bloke (Eisner?) made an offer and the attraction of being a billionnaire’s plaything won out over the security & pride of fan ownership. A shame.
York have also recently sold out, in this case with the majority owners taking a 51% stake. 49% would have perhaps been the ideal option there for the club but not for the new majority owners.
I don’t know about Scarborough but I suspect Darlo are hamstrung by their stadium issues.
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Portsmouth supporters- even with their substantial fan base- had to go cap in hand to Disney.
Agree with some of your points but not sure that’s an accurate representation – I think a more balanced view is that the Disney bloke (Eisner?) made an offer and the attraction of being a billionnaire’s plaything won out over the security & pride of fan ownership. A shame.
York have also recently sold out, in this case with the majority owners taking a 51% stake. 49% would have perhaps been the ideal option there for the club but not for the new majority owners.
I don’t know about Scarborough but I suspect Darlo are hamstrung by their stadium issues.
That’s probably more accurate with Pompey. Strangely, they haven’t made the any substantial progress despite the Eisner takeover. Modest adjustments to Fratton park and stagnated in a competitive league one for a number of years.
You’re correct about Darlo. Have a look at the Blackwell Meadows stadium, not fit for purpose and it’s hard to see how they progress as a club. It well could be we are in a similar situation in a years time unless things get sorted.
You’re correct about Darlo. Have a look at the Blackwell Meadows stadium, not fit for purpose and it’s hard to see how they progress as a club. It well could be we are in a similar situation in a years time unless things get sorted.
Indeed. Did you see the recent story about a team that was going to take over the moribund Reynolds Arena? They were apparently all set up to play their first game a few weeks ago only for it to emerge at the last minute that it was all some sort of scam. Redcar Newmarket were going to be renamed Darlington United & moved into the old stadium, only that didn’t happen….
Late last night we managed to take control of the @darlingtonutd social media pages however we have had threats that it will be taken back and deleted which as we wake up today has happened! As the rumours start to spread we wanted to make an official announcement!
— Redcar Newmarket (Darlington United Newmarket) (@RedcarNewmarket) August 10, 2023
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Portsmouths my local team – Eisner cleared their debts and is running them at quite close to break even on the playing side (hence them not walking right through league 1) the investment is going into the ground and infrastructure – it’s really improved Fratton Park with top facilities ; still an old school ground with a modern twist which i think I prefer over the new builds . I think the plan is to add capacity , as they are getting 19k every game – i think it only holds 20 now .
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I don’t mind Hilton throwing money at players to get out of NLN immediately, as long as it’s affordable (at present whilst effectively squatting and decent crowds I would hope it is). If we stay at GP all season with no rent to pay, great. However it’s very precarious. It’s what happens dependent on the outcome of the court case and also next season. How sustainable are high wages for players? Impossible to know when we still don’t know where the additional money is coming from, which I assume is being pumped in? Not very transparent is it. My concern is that everything is ticking along nicely at present but it could all come crashing down like a house of cards at any point in the new year.
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