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February 8, 2022 at 11:06 pm #231803
Walsall were the worst side I have ever seen for going down, in every tackle their players were either rolling around, holding their heads and ankles then a miracle occurred and they were fine generally trying to get a player sent off (which they succeeded in)
Having seen the challenge from Pugh it is unbelievable how he gets sent off, the Walsall player goes of his feet shin high and takes out Pugh how is spun round and falls on the the Walsall player who should have gone not Pugh.
Having said this I think the referee was the worst one I have seen for a very long time and was buying it all the time, I think I could count on one hand the right decision he made IMO and it was all about him.
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February 8, 2022 at 11:09 pm #231805Will/can we have it reviewed?
February 8, 2022 at 11:13 pm #231806No because it was 2 yellow cards.
You can only appeal a straight red – which is what the Walsall player should have got.
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February 8, 2022 at 11:43 pm #231808it was straight in front of us and we couldn’t believe it, even if Pugh left his foot in he couldn’t get out of the way of it and he wasn’t the one diving in.
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February 8, 2022 at 11:56 pm #231810I’m struggling to think of a worse refereeing decision that I’ve seen.
Blatant red for White not a clue what the ref thinks Pugh did.
Their captain should’ve got a 2nd yellow a minute after his first as well for the professional foul on Grant.
Having said that Watson could’ve been lucky it was hard to tell where the ball hit him but it didn’t look good.
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February 9, 2022 at 12:49 am #231811I’m struggling to think of a worse refereeing decision that I’ve seen
Worst one I ever saw was away at Shrewsbury when Sam Aiston ran a whole 10 yards jumped off the floor with both feet and slammed right into Sheldon breaking his leg in the process and received a yellow card.
Also Kevin Phillips once when he score for West Brom away despite being about 10 yards offside.
That ref tonight though was a joke. Watson should have gone but so should 2 of their players. Their captain for a blatant tug on Nuttall and White for them went shin/knee high on Pugh and somehow Pugh was penalised.
How he’s being allowed to ref professional games is beyond me. I agree Walsall players were rolling about all over and it was the pressure put on an incredibly weak ref which resulted in the 2nd yellow card.
3 points in 3 points though. I think Hackney is back now, he’ll add a bit more quality. Grant and Manny were outstanding.
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February 9, 2022 at 12:56 am #231812Just realised Hackney is back for the Rochdale game. Young Gallimore or Rowe to cover for Pugh against Swindon ?
February 9, 2022 at 8:53 am #231822On the Watson possible handball it looked high on his arm and I looked straight across to the Lino, he made no contact with the ref either by flagging or by calling over the ref so he must have been happy with his position.
Having said that the ref was shocking so he would have probably ignored him any way, a few people have high lighted certain decisions he made which just makes the inconsistency with referees so frustrating for people.
February 9, 2022 at 9:01 am #231824Pugh stood/kicked the Walsall player after getting up from the bad tackle. Their player should have had a card but Pugh deserved a yellow for what he did too. In fact, his first booking was a bad foul and could on another day have been a red.
I thought we were dirty at times last night – Nuttall was really niggly when he came on in particular. I don’t have a problem with that but we can’t complain if there are consequences to playing like that.
Not sure how Watson stayed on – did it hit him in the face? It looked like a handball outside the box but it wasn’t the clearest view on the TV.
February 9, 2022 at 9:54 am #231828Yeah interesting to see what Hill said after. That Pugh did foul the player and had to be more careful when on a booking. Not what I saw but it was right in front of the dugout so have to assume he had a better view. I still think the fact that the Walsall player got away with it was wrong. And Labadie definitely should have gone.
50/50 on Watson. Hard to tell whether it was the top of his right arm or his chest. But I’d say it’s safe to assume it was his arm and the ref got it wrong based on the rest of his evening.
February 9, 2022 at 10:10 am #231832Darryn it was straight in front of us and what could Pugh do, both players were committed but it was their player who lunged in feet first so was baffled from Hill’s comments, he saw it from ground level but he may have a different opinion when he saw it on screen afterwards.
but then again nobody gets sent off against us.
February 9, 2022 at 10:30 am #231834February 9, 2022 at 10:33 am #231835Pughs first yellow was given by the lino right in front of us never a yellow but for their player Kinsella i think but not sure rolling around and then all of a sudden we are ok,terrible sportsmanship i love it that we have a bit of nigglyness anout us
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February 9, 2022 at 10:53 am #231836I still think the fact that the Walsall player got away with it was wrong. And Labadie definitely should have gone.
Labadie was a pretty open & shut case, definite second yellow for the drag back on Nuttall.
Pughs first yellow was given by the lino right in front of us never a yellow but for their player Kinsella i think but not sure rolling around and then all of a sudden we are ok,terrible sportsmanship i love it that we have a bit of nigglyness anout us
He went in studs up at about chest height – I think he was lucky not to walk for that one.
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February 9, 2022 at 1:05 pm #231846Just watched the tackle on YouTube on the scunny website still can’t believe Pugh got sent off and not the Walsall player.
February 9, 2022 at 1:09 pm #231847Darryn it was straight in front of us and what could Pugh do, both players were committed but it was their player who lunged in feet first so was baffled from Hill’s comments, he saw it from ground level but he may have a different opinion when he saw it on screen afterwards.
but then again nobody gets sent off against us.
Yeah that was my view on TV Mick. Their guy flew in under Pugh and Pugh landed on him since he couldn’t do anything else.
But Keith seems to think he did do something so who knows?
February 11, 2022 at 10:43 am #231889Labadie should definitely have gone. Had the offences been committed a few minutes further apart he surely would have done. (The ref from the Arsenal game last night would have had him walking – that was a good decision imo!)
Watson was very lucky. Looked a clear handball to me.
Pugh – hmm. Bad tackle on him which could have been deemed reckless and deserved a card but I have to agree with Ferrite. He pushed himself back up with his left foot, which was on White’s leg. Not a stamp but definitely applied pressure. Gave the ref an option and can see why he gave it.
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February 11, 2022 at 12:07 pm #231890The ref from the Arsenal game last night would have had him walking – that was a good decision imo
Yeah I don’t know why that was controversial. Clear as day to me.
You’re right about Labadie.
February 11, 2022 at 5:51 pm #231892I don’t think the way White charged into Pugh he had chance to control how he was going to land on to White, White was out of control with the challenge and got away with it and I think the club are thinking that by comments from Simon Elliott and Hill.
And regarding Watson I think it was too close to him to be given handball and seeing it on the night and numerous times on video it is difficult to see whether it hit him on his arm or shoulder but seeing he gave us nothing else so let’s take that one because they got away with two.1 user thanked author for this post.
February 12, 2022 at 9:33 am #231913I don’t think Watson can use the defence that it was too close to him.
If your arm is in a “natural position” and you get hit from half a yard away then yeah fair enough.
But a keeper charging out of the area and spreading like that doesn’t matter if you are hit from an inch away. If it hits your arm you are done.
I think it was his speed that helped him and the fact that the ref can’t have been sure. Plus I don’t remember now but I don’t recall the Walsall players really making a fuss about it?1 user thanked author for this post.
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