Drysdale

[Bishops Finger]

All for it personally.

"In my opinion, it looks as if the referee went in there"

Ipswich boss Paul Lambert has asked the EFL to investigate an incident between referee Darren Drysdale and #ITFC's Alan Judge

— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) February 17, 2021

[Ferrite]

Absolutely, I’m all for vigilante refs. Should have sent off to the two Ipswich players who pushed him away too.

[BigLeftToe]

If Judge said something to make him want to square up to him, surely it would have warranted a red card?

[Iron Age]

It’s nothing that Pierluigi Collina wouldn’t have done, with greater affect.

[mistertonmick]

It’s a wonder if the clubs aren’t charged for their players confronting the ref.

[Ferrite]

mistertonmick wrote:

It’s a wonder if the clubs aren’t charged for their players confronting the ref.

It really is. People talk about how referees don’t get respect but the laws exist for them to punish dissent, for some reason they choose not to. Maybe because of managers, maybe because of the press, maybe just because they’re so used to it. But there’s no reason why most referees couldn’t hand out far more cards for dissent.

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[BigLeftToe]

I don’t usually like the comparison between rugby and football, but football should be no different in terms of respect being shown to the referee. Not long ago Kyle Sinckler got a 3 match ban for screaming “are you f***ing serious!?” to the referee. In football they must hear that that sort of thing 100 times per game!

[Ferrite]

BigLeftToe wrote:

Not long ago Kyle Sinckler got a 3 match ban for screaming “are you f***ing serious!?” to the referee.

Which rather undermines the rugger fans who always talk about how players respect the referee! But what they do do in rugger is support the refs and the refs stand up for themselves. It would be nice on Match of the Day or Sky or wherever if they could talk about a game without spending most of their time looking at refereeing decisions in minute detail. Refereeing decisions are massively over-rated in terms of deciding a game.

[BigLeftToe]

Rugger fans’ point is still very much valid…that incident was a huge anomaly which very rarely, if ever, happens (hence the 3 game suspension). If 3 game suspensions were handed out for that in football you probably wouldn’t be able to put on a single game due to the number of suspensions!

[Iron-awe]

One of the reasons they don’t mic up Premiership refs live on air like rugby refs, the players could not take a bollocking without kicking off and hassling the official. Love watching and listening to rugby refs laying down the law and explaining very clearly why they have made a decision to the player concerned. Also note that a lot of the players still refer to the rugby ref as sir and some refs call players by their first names. The respect between players and rugby refs and players and Premiership refs is miles apart and sad to see. Also you don’t get many rugby coaches gobbing off on air of in the press after a game about how the referee had done. It’s chalk and cheese really, Premiership footballers have a lot of indiscipline that needs addressing but I will say that VAR interpretation needs to be addressed by the authorities aswell.

[Ferrite]

BigLeftToe wrote:

Rugger fans’ point is still very much valid…that incident was a huge anomaly which very rarely, if ever, happens (hence the 3 game suspension). If 3 game suspensions were handed out for that in football you probably wouldn’t be able to put on a single game due to the number of suspensions!

Well, if that’s the case, I’d argue that’s not an instinctive respect for the ref, but a desire not to be penalised. Which is still a good thing.

Iron-awe wrote:

Also note that a lot of the players still refer to the rugby ref as sir and some refs call players by their first names.

I’m pretty sure football referees are often on first-name terms with players too.

The rugger refs have to explain their decisions because there are so many rules in the game, it’s often impossible to tell why a decision has been given!

[BigLeftToe]

You mustn’t have watched much rugby, if any, to still try and compare the respect shown towards referees between the two sports. The difference is black and white, chalk and cheese, apples and oranges…

[Northumbiron]

I remember a RL game where Robbie Paul was wittering on. In a break in play the ref called him over and you could hear…

“Do you know the rules of Rugby League Robbie?” “Yeah!” “Do you think I know the rules of Rugby League?” “Course you do.”

“Good! We both know the rules, so you can stop following me around quoting them!”

Brilliant!

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Ferrite

[Ferrite]

BigLeftToe wrote:

You mustn’t have watched much rugby, if any, to still try and compare the respect shown towards referees between the two sports. The difference is black and white, chalk and cheese, apples and oranges…

Don’t watch it anymore, I wasn’t arguing there was a difference, just looking at the reason for the difference, which is the laws & their application, rather than just rugger players being “better”.

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