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I can understand a degree of moaning about some of the on pitch / football activity from supporters paying week in week out, home and away, particularly how dire it seems to have been recently (it’s a football forum after all), but the levels of negativity, criticisms of Board decisions, Butler, Turnbull, etc, aren’t helping anyone IMO. Some perspective and patience would be welcome.
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It’s football, there’ll be criticism, some of it will be unwarranted from people that like to have a moan about anything. I think your exaggerating the criticism, if you look more closely anything that, to me, seems OTT comes from a few people only.
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I’d say more than a few Cass, across various social media platforms. Something we know playing and non-playing staff read. Also, slagging off the team causing Roberts to retaliate?
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Yes Sanfran, fickleness all over. Burnley supporter friend reports similar moaning happening again amongst their fan base because Sinclair is ‘too defensive’ for some. Happens with most clubs, especially in this day and age when people demand instant gratification.
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Unfortunately it’s the old social media thing again isn’t it and it’s not just moaning football fans, some idiots like Farage even used it recklessly after those little girls were murdered in Southport, using lies and falsehoods which brought rioting morons onto the streets intent on arson and murder.
Not sure what the answer is, free speech is important and some will justify saying anything whilst hiding behind it, as far as our fans go then most are sensible and patient, not everything said on a football forum or Facebook group will IMO reflect the majority opinion anyway. Most fans still prefer chatting amongst themselves on match day and quite a lot go to football to watch a game and except it for what it is. I support the club and the current board, without them we wouldn’t have a club now.3 users thanked author for this post.
We’ve being moaning since Eve sunk her teeth in the apple.
The supporters are behind the team, we have over 4,000 supporters watching glorified pub football week in, week out, record shirt sales and taking more away from home than plenty of league 2 sides. Supporters have also had to plough in plenty of their money in various forms.
The idiots on social media will have their voice heard the loudest because that’s what encourages engagement. I saw plenty of posts calling for Artell’s head after 3 game, likewise Chester fans calling for their managers head before he turned it around.
There is a lot of valid criticism of the way we are heading on the pitch. Let’s be honest, the football isn’t great and we are in poor form. Constant scrutiny will come from having the biggest budget and the biggest expectation- if you don’t like that, go and manage/play for Oxford city.
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I think criticism and anger at your idols for wrecking the club is a bit different to a more sustainable club with a manager who is not currently getting the perceived best out the squad.
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Scunthorpe United have some of the worst supporters in England, and Scunthorpe United have some of the best supporters in England. Copy and paste for every English club, fact.
There we have it in a nut shell … every club will have its Stu Maws and also its less loyal and less positive fans thats the way its been and will stay long after most of us depart this world.
Indeed sufc fans and businesses have rallied round over the last few months / year to sponsor buy merc record sales , season ticket record sales even cash collections to pay wages in the darkest days .. so much unity “united we stand” was the tag and so it should be going forward.
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SOME of these fans (a small minority) surely do have the right to moan and criticize about current form, and how in their opinion things should change ..in this case formation tactics being too defensive is the key issue and its so obvious to see it.
Indeed am i moaning or stating a fact when i say IMO the form of the players has been negatively effected by the current formation chosen by AB and the football on offer is all to predictable and unconvincing, i love SUFC but still have my opinion.
Have read of the Fishy forum how our “friendly” Cod fans react to defeat or bad form slating the players and management and this goes for every other club possibly around the whole world when things are going sour.
As my old gran used to say “Opinions are like arseholes ………everyone has one”.
SCUNNY FANS ARE NO BETTER OR NO WORSE THEN ANY AT OTHER CLUB.
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I’d say more than a few Cass, across various social media platforms. Something we know playing and non-playing staff read. Also, slagging off the team causing Roberts to retaliate?
He definitely played, on Saturday, like he was proving a point.
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After a performance like that at Guiseley there will be complaints. Though, the heat of the moment has blown over, it’s best not to get carried away and get sucked into pessimism.
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I think what frustrates me is the complete lack of perspective among a section of the Iron fanbase, combined with the vocal section which cheered on Swann & Hilton’s ruinous spending for the last decade. We’re not rich any more. We’re not going to blast our way through this league – if that was going to happen, the time was last season but sadly we had a completely incompetent manager.
And I don’t think it’s just this board or social media – just have to see the IronArmy vid from Guiseley to disprove that.
And a lot of them haven’t changed, they think we can just walk out this league when you see how long it took York City and Stockport County to get promoted.
Since being bored by Hurst, Covid and the downward spiral of the last two owners i’ve seen a lot of Non League football… they are countless examples of throwing money at a league(or throwing money on credit as we did) and not getting anywhere.
Boston is a good model to follow – they were in a mess and they did have David Newton’s money but it wasn’t millions and they had a lot of financial mess to clean up. They also had good club men(Craig Singleton) who were prepared to do anything.
I wasn’t the biggest fan of James Moody given when Swann and Hilton were putting words in his mouth, but he’s delivered over the last few months.
The older fans don’t help though.. Some who were quite happy as long as they had their perks(you don’t need me to mention who)and little club and barked at anyone who mentioned anything wasn’t quite right.
In short to coin a phrase, a few need to Wise up.
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Given the fact that the fans put their hands in their pockets, raising a significant amount of cash to pay the wages of the staff and players, I feel that there is no way we (Scunthorpe United) have the worst fans in England. Indeed one could argue that given the dross we have been served up over the last few years, having over 4,000 at home matches in regional football, means that we have some of the best fans in England.
Paying customers (fans) do have a right to voice their displeasure even if it is somewhat misguided at times. All supporters should be somewhat concerned in the current form however, we all have to be realistic and understand that despite all the money coming in, the previous mismanagement of the club has meant that we are not in a financial position to be able to throw money at the problem.
I do not support Scunthorpe United because I am a glory hunter. I support the club because it is in the blood and all I want is a club to follow that will be competitive in whatever division we ply our trade in, and I suspect I am not on my own in that!
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Stockport only remained in the Nln so long because they didn’t throw money at it.
What’s that with Boston they got up on pure luck alone weren’t even in a playoff position after 60 mins in the final league game, and 2 penalty shootouts in the playoffs.
What frustrates me is you and Ferrite and the like cant grasp we’re not down on our metal anymore,basic maths on crowd income alone (shouldn’t have put that Deerey will be round the corner asking how I know what the crowd income is) not asking for mega money to be spent don’t even think a transfer fee needed, just a few more through the doors especially when it has being needed like over the last 5 weeks, if we can’t afford that then there’s something seriously going amiss behind the scenes that we don’t know about.
I’ve seen this league for a year and a bit now and we Should walk out this league not seen one team that have looked actually better than us have you?
Dean held us back last season apologies for the pun and Butler seems to be doing the same this season at the moment.1 user thanked author for this post.
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