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    Embarrassed himself tonight, his team has as much character as an egg white omelette but his knee jerk sub after the sending off looked like clueless panic.Hes not a proper manager

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    If he wants to attend weddings perhaps Michelle should make it easy for him

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    Said it enough times, thick as mince. No plan B and my god Beestin out wide- when will that ever work. Beestin isn’t worth a place in the squad. Torpey had it right on Humberside – bringing off Elliot and leaving Wilson and Beestin on the pitch was just bizarre.

    When we need a plan B he just hasn’t got a clue. We looked aimless and leaderless in front of a bumper crowd

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    Not one person around could figure out why he made that call .

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    What was his game plan?

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    Not a clue,

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    no one thought Beeston out wide was the right call and even worse to leave him on after the sending off. We gave them the initiative with that sub. Bring Whitehall on for Beeston or Wilson and go 4-3-2 show them even a man down we want to win this. Sorry but he isn’t winning play off either.

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    Let that sink in,he played Beeston out wide

    #280106
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    Everything about tonight’s game proves he’s not good enough

    #280109
    cliffbyrnesrightpegCliff Byrne’s Right Peg
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    Numerous bad decisions tonight, as mentioned the decision to leave Wilson and Beestin on- whom were the 2 worst players on the pitch- and take Elliott off was baffling.

    Everything has become stale tbh, we have one way of playing which has served us well for the majority of the season, but there is no alternative when teams set up to counter- usually with a high press and physicality in the middle of the park like Buxton and Tamworth. Having only 2 strikers on the books limits what we can do with the formation.

    My worry now is how Dean can motivate the squad to turn it around, we went into a death spiral after the Notts county game last year and lost a ridiculous amount in a row; I’m not suggesting that will happen but does he have the capability to put 6/7 wins together in a row to reignite the title charge- I’m skeptical.

    I’ll make no secret of the fact I like Dean, he’s a good bloke and the way he conducted himself through the back end of the Hilton era put goodwill credit in the bank with me. However, If we don’t win this league, which is becoming more realistic by the week, it’s a failure. Not gaining promotion at all and he has to go.

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    I would have personally subbed Beestin for Pugh and took Wilson off for Whitehall and gone 4/3/2. Beestin shouldn’t even be starting in CM never mind out wide, he’s not match fit.

    Beestin started looking laboured at about 30 minute mark, he chased one ball down the right and looked like he was wearing lead boots but somehow had a spurt of energy and won the ball which was mind boggling but he looked on his last legs even then.

    Poor sods been out over 4 months and we have Ferris back and a fully fit Pugh so no idea why he’s even risking him right from the off. This kind of stupidity is what causes players to break down again. Absolutely no excuse why he can’t give him 15 or 20 mins here and there and sensibly get minutes into him that way like we did when he eased Roberts back.

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    We’d all like a Sierra Cosworth but all we can afford is an Austin Mini Metro.

    #280120
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    Why did the club agree to play the match when your main 14 goal striker is just coming back from suspension?

    Then to not start with Whitehall was absolute madness.

    Wilson was merely pushed around all second half and Beestin was heavy legged and completely lost.

    Siembe Ferris would have been a better starting option as he kept getting behind the Tamworth defence, with more time in the game that may have paid off.

    Taking Elliot off was another baffling decision. I also agree that our style needs twerking as the midfield lacks bite.

    Moving to 3 up front away at Farsley with Whitehall, Elliot and Roberts up top was a massive positive.

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    Beestin still being around, there’s hope for us all who turn up for work and do as little as possible.

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    ‘our style needs twerking’. Would certainly liven things up!

    How can Dean think before the red card we were ‘edging it’ on ‘6/10’? Tamworth were worth 7/10 all night.

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    The problem is, our ‘play’ is all in front of the opposition… easy to negate.
    We don’t have anyone who gets down the sides or behind.
    Pace kills.

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    #280129
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    Simple matter is that, on our biggest game for a good while the manager was left severely wanting in pre match set up and then in game decisions. Everyone in that ground could see it. Even the RH team who were as diplomatic as ever but you could sense their bewilderment. Games of this type and opposition of this type will come thick and fast in NL and he won’t have a clue what to do.

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    I thought Torps was being over optimistic about the remainder of the season at the end. Didn’t sound like he believed himself. I didn’t. Expecting us to win both games in hand and Tamworth to drop 6 is a tall ask. Though you never know.

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    #280132
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    I’ve said right from the start, he is learning on the job and NLN is as high as he can go. Last night’s match further confirmed that unless there is some sort if dramatic change in him, he is not the man for the long-term. His formation and substitutions last night were puzzling. Ill-informed people will say that to lose 1-0 against Tamworth when we played the best part of 40 minutes with 10 men is a decent effort, but the red card papered over the cracks. We were never really in the game, and struggled to string more than 3 or 4 passes together throughout the match.

    That said, sacking JD when you’re second in the table is probably a little extreme, would be seen by most football pundits as a knee-jerk reaction, and would likely be out-of-character for the new board. We have to remember, Tamworth are on an incredible run of results and are top because they are winning every match they are playing.

    #280133
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    Dean was brought in to fail and I suspect that was Hiltons plan this year coupled with unaffordable wages. More failure, greatly increased debt – then club gone.

    Tom Pugh was fully fit and in form, brings him back, gives him a start then on the bench !! Dion Sembie-Ferris fully fit and in form, brings him back because we need a winger and he puts him on the bench !! Just do not get a semblance of a plan.

    Alfie Beestin got covid and sadly seems to have suffered long term, inconsistent at best is the feeling from others comments. Cam Wilson – don’t know what has happened to him, in both academy and the U23’s he was full of flair, frightened of no defenders no matter how big they were.

    Sounds as though the plan was ‘Don’t lose’ which if so is so negative. This team should be top, play-offs are not a good plan.

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    That said, sacking JD when you’re second in the table is probably a little extreme, would be seen by most football pundits as a knee-jerk reaction, and would likely be out-of-character for the new board. We have to remember, Tamworth are on an incredible run of results and are top because they are winning every match they are playing.

    Aye, it would bring back memories of Swann and Alexander. ‘Doing a Scunny’ would become a byword for clubs in promotion slots who sack their manager.

    Most teams have a bad spell during the season. If we can get over ours and have a storming finish with a day out at Wembley, we’ll be in the dreamland of er… the NL before you can say ‘Tommy Orpington’.

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    I watched the Boston v Tamworth game last week which was 0-0, if either team had scored they would win, but neither of them did. Utter dross like most of the games in this league.
    Last nights game for us it was like watching the same game as that Boston match, except Whitehall panicked, smashed the ball out for a corner and we conceded from a Sunday league level goalmouth scramble, this is the level of football we are at.
    Formations, players, Beestin, Wilson, Clunan, or Pugh, Shrimpton or DSF it doesn’t matter we’d see the same game, get the same poor officials.
    Until we’re on a financially solid footing everything else is just like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Who would we replace Dean with and who would pay for it, bearing in mind we are still digging ourselves out of a very deep hole ?

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    That said, sacking JD when you’re second in the table is probably a little extreme, would be seen by most football pundits as a knee-jerk reaction, and would likely be out-of-character for the new board. We have to remember, Tamworth are on an incredible run of results and are top because they are winning every match they are playing.

    Most teams have a bad spell during the season. If we can get over ours and have a storming finish with a day out at Wembley

    The Final isn’t played at Wembley.
    Highlights of last seasons final:

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    Biggest crowd of the season with over 5000 Scunny fans in the ground and we play like that. The Tamworth fans singing ” 1-0 on your big day out ” was spot on, we were shite and they knew it. When he subbed Elliot ( stupid decision IMO ) for Kelly, JD was going for the ” hang on for a point routine” which just invites more pressure, saying that we flattered to deceive on a couple of breakaways that nearly paid off but in truth the tactics were poor last night and JD should know that. Sembie-Ferris to start on Saturday with Beestin on the bench, if not expect the same dross and possibly a gruelling 1-0 win, which I think Jimmy would take at this very moment. He’s under pressure but it’s entirely of his own making with tactics like last night

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    The pressure is off now, we’re probably not expected to catch them, we won’t drop out the playoffs so let’s take the handbrake off and go for it.
    The midfield three hasn’t worked for some time now, Scales doesn’t seem to be involved half as much now. How many times last night the three of them were in the same 5 yard square when we did get the ball we’re playing two yard passes and getting pressed by 3 or 4 players. When we get the ball down and try and play, there is one pass available, no one shows for the ball, and when they get it they have their back to goal and play the ball back to where it came from
    Last night should’ve seen Whitehall up top, Elliot and DSF either side. Pace would’ve hurt them last night

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    I don’t like Dean and don’t rate him as a manager but we don’t have any choice but to stick with him, there’s no way the club can be paying off a manager in the current financial position.

    As for the selections, they said on Humberside that it was touch & go whether Sembie-Ferris would be available tonight, so on that basis it makes sense to start with him on the bench, so you prepare the team without him.
    Whitehall’s exclusion really surprised me but he has just become a dad, plus he’s been out for several weeks, was he really in the right mental & physical condition to start?

    The one that really gets me is why Boyce has been dropped when, for my money, he’s been the stand-out defender this season.

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    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    At this level, formations are pretty irrelevant.
    It’s 11 v 11 on a fixed size pitch.
    It’s a game of running.
    Running to get back and behind your opponent when they’ve got the ball.
    Running forward in support, on overlaps, in to space and getting beyond your opponent when we’ve got the ball.
    If you don’t run and don’t work hard enough – then you’ll be inviting pressure on to you and not creating any outlets.
    You’ve got to run further & faster than your opponent, win more challenges, win more headers, have more shots, make more successful passes.
    It ain’t rocket science.

    Mentally, our players are shot now.
    Jimbob doesn’t have the technical & tactical knowledge to get the best out of them on the pitch – and he certainly isn’t qualified as a psychologist to sort their heads out and transform them in to Spartans

    How things are shaping up, the play off game/s will be a David v Goliath event… we know how that ended.

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    That said, sacking JD when you’re second in the table is probably a little extreme, would be seen by most football pundits as a knee-jerk reaction, and would likely be out-of-character for the new board. We have to remember, Tamworth are on an incredible run of results and are top because they are winning every match they are playing.

    Aye, it would bring back memories of Swann and Alexander. ‘Doing a Scunny’ would become a byword for clubs in promotion slots who sack their manager.

    Most teams have a bad spell during the season. If we can get over ours and have a storming finish with a day out at Wembley, we’ll be in the dreamland of er… the NL before you can say ‘Tommy Orpington’.

    Didn’t we have that tag already when Alexander, Dawson/Daws and McCall were sacked in quick succession?

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    Ironically ,if he’d just tightened up a bit and left it his one man upfront would have been OK after sending off, maybe fresh legs up top to give some energy and a pressure release

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    That said, sacking JD when you’re second in the table is probably a little extreme, would be seen by most football pundits as a knee-jerk reaction, and would likely be out-of-character for the new board. We have to remember, Tamworth are on an incredible run of results and are top because they are winning every match they are playing.

    Aye, it would bring back memories of Swann and Alexander. ‘Doing a Scunny’ would become a byword for clubs in promotion slots who sack their manager.

    Most teams have a bad spell during the season. If we can get over ours and have a storming finish with a day out at Wembley, we’ll be in the dreamland of er… the NL before you can say ‘Tommy Orpington’.

    Didn’t we have that tag already when Alexander, Dawson/Daws and McCall were sacked in quick succession?

    You could be right, and it’s probably contributed to the freefall of the last few years. Talk of getting to the final and our own ‘Wembley’ might be optimistic, but getting rid of Dean at this stage would be even more folly. Who would want to take over a club that sacks its manager when second?
    Here’s the run in, with venues.

    https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/key-dates-confirmed-ahead-of-202324-season-76562

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