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And the only ones causing the division are?
I don’t think anyone is causing division, it’s football – people have opinions whether about management, players, formations, refs or how green the mushy peas are on their pie. The majority seem happy with Mr Hilton buying the club and his recent explanations about what is going to happen, fair enough.
Personally I’m disappointed that the immediate plan is to run it as an NLN club with the entire day to day infrastructure based 70 miles away. I would have preferred it if the owner presented the club as a previously mismanaged League club, which has fallen to this depth but is now planning to get the heck back up as soon as possible, not experimenting with cast off Midlands academy players. But he isn’t and he doesn’t have to, he’s bought it.
I’m sad for youngsters from the area that there won’t be an academy. It isn’t just about producing the next big money sell on, it is a major link between community and club.
I don’t buy the Ilkeston move reasons. I get that Mr Hilton is obviously proud of what’s been done at Ilkeston but honestly I’m not interested in seeing it any more than I am at looking at Nottingham Forest’s or Tottenham’s.
Sorry but from the Nelson radio interview, Dean, bizarre player comings and goings, rumours, twitter abandoned, rumours confirmed, academy closed by internet announcement to the Ilkeston move I have to say I am very worried, and that sir is my opinion.6 users thanked author for this post.
It’s caused enough division in some to say they aren’t going to get a season ticket again or pay to watch games again, that’s not just an opinion is it sir. That’s not my opinion it is stating what those trying to cause division have said nothing more nothing less.
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The temporary lease is up shortly so it’s either pay up or move out!
I’m guessing the temporary lease finishes on the date he gave previously in which the takeover will be fully completed on, may 24th ?
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It’ll be permanently temporary.
RE TRAINING OVVER YONDER … Yes Rene thats how i see it panning out … i hope the 4 podcast GUYS push this when they film later this week IN ILKESTON.
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You only see the board advertiser’s on match day Cass why would they need a refund or want one.
Training days, restaurant days, shopping days, stadium tour days. People pay for exposure.
What are you talking about??? None of those things happen currently, people pay for matchday advertising…NOTHING else! So there is no reason anyone would ask for a refund!
Same applies to the stadium naming rights mentioned on another thread, training elsewhere has zero impact on what the stadium is called.
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Topics: 59Displacement of tribes from their ancestral homelands never ends well.
Ask the Native American Indians!Can you imagine standing on the terrace for a home game chanting ‘Scunthorpe, Scunthorpe, Scunthorpe’, yet you’re in Ilkeston, Derbyshire!
Have I missed the interview where Hilton said we will be playing games at Ilkeston???
how using GP only on match days will operate needs to also be an issue put to DH in the up coming podcast ,,i hope the guys that do the cast dont get all giddy n go soft on him as the event is staged in the promised land.
I will predict now most pre season friendlies and non league cup competitions will be played at Ilkeston (except for the ones against Botesford , Cods etc.)
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Topics: 59Anyway I’ll ask again,did he or did he not originally say he’d bought the lot,ground included?
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Topics: 59Ok, so the plan to move the training of our players to Ilkeston has been abandoned. I don’t know if there is still time to save the academy.
The main problem for me is playing in NLN next season. Only one promotion place to play for, it’s like an elephant’s graveyard. I fear we might get stuck with it…
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Topics: 59much happier since the DH Ironarmy podcast gig and decided to be more positive towards the new owners efforts, i liked what he said.
Looks like JD is here to stay but he does know hes got to get results as i get the feeling Hilts wont take too much shit if things go wrong.
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First of all I will make it perfectly clear that I am not a Scunthorpe United supporter, although I am a football supporter and have a keen interest in the wider issue of mis-management in football and the reasons behind the demise of some clubs. Sadly the club that I support has suffered from gross incompetence, mis-management and I suspect, probably worse.
I listened to the recent interview with David Hilton and a few things raised questions.
1) To buy any football club you need deep pockets, Hilton acknowledges the point in his interview. Most people with substantial wealth, the sort required to own and finance a football club have a business background, a clear path of how their wealth has been accrued. Given that Hilton is 45 years of age, I would expect some trading history of at least 10-15 years and for the companies under his control to have a balance sheet with a positive net asset value of at least 7-figures.
2) Hilton’s previous name (David White). Again, Hilton acknowledges his previous name but fails to explain the reasons for it other than it was personal. From my experience, most people change their names for two reasons, they don’t want to be found (in Hilton’s case we can probably rule this out given his involvement at Ilkeston and at your club) or they don’t want to be associated with their past.
3) Hilton, in the closing part of the interview states that if there is any evidence about him to bring it to him so it can be discussed. For me, this was a peculiar thing to say.
4) Companies House, Google, thegazette.co.uk, social media and Credit Reference Agencies are usually a good starting point for any supporter wanting to conduct some basic due diligence on those involved with their club or those who are looking to get involved.
5) If you are unfortunate to hold a senior position at a club, say Director or Co. Secretary you can usually submit a background request with a Police Force and related agencies with varying degrees of success without too much trouble.
6) A simple Google search of David White and Andy Nally (name of current Chairman at Ilkeston) throws up an interesting thread (https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/08456806308) dating back to 2011. There are 23 pages of this but they are worth persevering with.
7) Judging by Hilton’s comments, there is clearly an element of mistrust that exists between part of your fanbase and him. He would be better addressing those concerns by explaining the reasons for his name change, his business background and how he has accrued sufficient wealth to purchase and finance the day-to-day running of a loss making football club because it is far from obvious in my opinion). If he fails to do so, the concerns of the silent majority will grow to being the suspicions of the majority.
Keep your eyes peeled and I will wish you the very best of luck.
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Interested Bystander: good points raised. In all honesty, most of us are conveniently avoiding these questions as we all know it’s probably not going to make for a nice read. A shame we don’t have a strong local newspaper to follow up these leads anymore.
I’ve spoken with Ilkeston fans and their reviews are nothing but positive, in terms of evidence, that’s all we can really form an opinion on at the moment.
I may be wrong ( and I hope I am wrong), but I’ve got a feeling in my gut that things might go tits up when the ground completion is due.
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Interested Bystander: good points raised. In all honesty, most of us are conveniently avoiding these questions as we all know it’s probably not going to make for a nice read. A shame we don’t have a strong local newspaper to follow up these leads anymore.
I’ve spoken with Ilkeston fans and their reviews are nothing but positive, in terms of evidence, that’s all we can really form an opinion on at the moment.
I may be wrong ( and I hope I am wrong), but I’ve got a feeling in my gut that things might go tits up when the ground completion is due.
Last sentence ..my thoughts exactly ……hope im wrong too.
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Topics: 59Interested Bystander – The alarm bell is already ringing for me and with some others but it seems the majority are relieved the club seems to be saved and don’t want to look too deep and are happy to accept what he says. Time will tell.
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