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So Swann isn’t giving us GP back then, IIRC he said he would. I think he also said he wouldn’t charge the club rent until they could afford it, he’s surely not gone back on that as well.
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Well I did say about sticking with the devil you know,Bring back Swann.
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Wonder if the Iron Bar will survive the cull ? … obviously can be staffed on match days etc but stocking maybe an issue especially re draft beers, make sure the kegs are empty before you leave boys.
Re the restaurant.. is the food any good ? only seen pics but the bangers n mash looked tasty though on one occasion it was commented on YT the place stunk light an old peoples home.GP maintenance , security, grounds staff the pitch ..that fantastic new scoreboard will it all fall into disrepair and become unsustainable so another option can be found ?
Sponsorship deals , advertising surely all this will be effected if mothballing the ground for days weeks months actually happens ..let alone the local fan base dying off..1 user thanked author for this post.
I’ll give you a conspiracy theory – Hilton can’t afford/doesn’t want to run Scunthorpe above NLN. Buys the club when relegation was probably a foregone conclusion and HMRC etc were circling, he immediately parachutes a non league manager straight in as Nelson was starting to get a tune out of it, sends Whitehead, O’Malley etc out on loan brings players in, then moves them out or they don’t get played again if they appear to be any good. Then once it is finally clear that, barring a mathematical miracle we are actually down, announces everything other than actual match day is being closed or relocated to Ilkeston, which is 70 miles away and where he has already built up a seemingly good football base and also where he presumably lives near.
That’s a conspiracy theory.
What is presented to us is that short term whilst everything is sorted out, facilities built in Scunthorpe, team rebuilt to return to NL and push for FL, GP purchase finalised and surrounding land sold off the academy will close and training and all day to day stuff will move to Ilkeston because it’s better there. And this will be the case for an unspecified length of time.
That isn’t a conspiracy theory.
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Sounds like some people are getting very angry on here because all their guff isn’t being believed by everybody, how wonderful.
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The idea of fans wanting to become a sustainable club and actually coming one appear to be 2 different entities entirely.
A point of interest: speaking to people without an emotional attachment to the club seem to understand the motives for the decisions been taken.
Perhaps a dose of pragmatism is the medicine the club needs; whether we agree with the decisions taken or not, the club is/ has been a poor state for a long time now.
It cannot carry on operating in its current state.
Spot on Cliff, didn’t DH say in his interview parts of the club were still being run like it was in the Championship, hence the players wages as a percentage of the entire staff bill being considerably lower. Things have to change big time after such a stupid unsustainable roller coaster ride under the previous owner, yes it’s sad, yes it hurts but it’s the reality of running a club like Scunthorpe United in a more manageable way and not a suicide mission.
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The club couldn’t continue to operate as it was. There is no denying that. That said, I am astonished how well the plans have been received. I have not seen many people in the wider footballing community that think any part of this plan is a good idea.
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Probably like us it’s hard to take it in that we’re a NLN team now, a drop of realization is needed and get things in perspective.
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Very true. Reality – Scunthorpe Utd are to be based in Ilkeston, because that’s a better location.
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The scenario I suspect has many turns left in what undoubtedly will be a bumpy and twisted road.
I’m not sure what to make of this. My cynical brain suggests that this is the beginning of a new future of sustained lower league football, where investment is minimal as the club adjusts to cutting its cloth to support a NLN team and where cooperation with Ilkeston is deemed to be our saviour. Perhaps they become a feeder club to Scunthorpe and this is where our loanees start their recovery from the humiliation of been dropped from Premier League 2 to NLN or perhaps even Tier 4 of Non-League football. Neither club moves forward to any great degree, perhaps Ilkeston do due to the pulling power of Scunthorpe attracting loanees that Ilkeston cannot. Scunthorpe effectively become a mothballed version of what they once were, attendances dwindle until a merger with Ilkeston becomes the only realistic way forward. Franchise established…
The happy, clappy optimist that lies within sees how we move some facilities to get better opportunities. We mothball costly functions for a season or two until the books balance and the provision is better. Scunthorpe swallow their portion of humble pie, accept their plight but move forward proudly. Hilton invests over time, facilities improve in Scunthorpe and the club eventually rolls forward, with a realistic financial proposition in its own ground with its own academy returning upon our return to EFL football.
The reality…likely to be neither of these.
I just hope we survive, thrive and retain some identity that makes SUFC the proud club we know and love.
Up the Iron.
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I’m sure Hilton said the players wages are only 30% of the total wage bill with the other 70% being spent on staff. How the hell can that be right ?
Many have said on here for years about the sheer amount of staff employed. This season right up until Hilton came in we had 4 staff on the books which we’re doing very particular roles “minor roles” , when in reality we just needed the one staff member to cover the four areas. That’s the problem we had.
To have such little spent on playing staff while shelling out all that on staff members was a joke. Even worse Rodwell in Swann’s tenure was being paid 200-300k wasn’t he ?
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The land down there doesn’t drain very well naturally and I’m also pretty sure they buggered up the drainage when they were laying the training pitch. It isn’t the best but it’s certainly not as bad as has been made out.
I’d be interested to know how many training days are lost on average per season due to the training pitch. I am pretty sure Hilton suggested that we lose three months a season, which is complete nonsense.
Incidentally, Bottesford have nearly finished laying their all weather pitch. I’m not sure if it’s compatible to the world class facilities in Ilkeston but it’s looking smart and it’s available for hire soon. £15k/season would have been reasonable.
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I’m sure Hilton said the players wages are only 30% of the total wage bill with the other 70% being spent on staff. How the hell can that be right
There’s no way this is the case. I think he meant the player wage bill is 30% of turnover. 70% is being spent on all other costs and not just staff wages. For comparison EFL SCMP rules limit L2 to 50% of turnover and L1 to 60%.
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