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November 26, 2024 at 7:39 pm #294615
No team changes ,wonder if the formation is the same.Darlo beaten only once in five,three wina
November 26, 2024 at 7:54 pm #294617Picture quality poor on Dazn
November 26, 2024 at 9:01 pm #294630It’s not just the quality of the picture that’s poor. We look like a mid table team at best.
November 26, 2024 at 9:05 pm #294631Yep SOD we ain’t great. The passing is amateur
And the commentary on Dazn is annoying too
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November 26, 2024 at 9:05 pm #294632I do think Deerey had a point a week or so ago. The back 5 didn’t help, but there are bigger problems afoot. I am not convinced by the balance of the squad and wonder if they actually are good enough.
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November 26, 2024 at 9:12 pm #294633You wouldn’t know which team were 1st vs 15th in league before the game kicked off…and if anything you would have went for Darlington being top going on the performance so far.
Fitz keeping us in it!
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November 26, 2024 at 9:21 pm #294635I know there’s a lot of football left to play this season but I’m not convinced that we’ve got enough to gain promotion this season. If I were a betting man, I’d pop a tenner on its being on the NLN next season.
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November 26, 2024 at 9:26 pm #294637Could be wrong but pretty sure I heard Butler saying pre-match there’s a real prospect of part time next season without promotion. So whoever said that last week (which I questioned) sounds like you could be right.
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November 26, 2024 at 9:33 pm #294638And if we do go part time do we think we will be seeing 4k there at home games.
I’d very much doubt we’d see 2.5kNovember 26, 2024 at 9:43 pm #294641the clubs dead. deirdrie sidey snotty idiot insider and bru killed it by forcing dave away
November 26, 2024 at 10:00 pm #294643That was a hard watch, really low on quality, the amount of misplaced passes and turnover of the ball was staggering – on both sides. It was proper village stuff.
I did mention about part time but not based on any insider knowledge but I can see a prolonged stay in this division with the current set up and part time looks more likely given the situation. It will put a fair few off.
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November 26, 2024 at 11:06 pm #294645November 27, 2024 at 1:26 am #294646Could be wrong but pretty sure I heard Butler saying pre-match there’s a real prospect of part time next season without promotion. So whoever said that last week (which I questioned) sounds like you could be right.
I think a few people have expressed this view?
From the Head of Recruitment thread:
Does a 2nd tier non-league team actually need a Head of Recruitment?
How many other teams in this league have one?
Is it a waste of £50k a year?
Surely Stan (Butler) & Jack (Schofield) have enough contacts within the game and desperate players seeking trials?
If the HoR ‘finds’ five players a season then that works out at £10k a player.
Seems we’re trying to desperately cling to our ‘professional’ status and haven’t accepted our fate and faced the facts.
We’re non-league and looking as if we’ll be grounded in this league for a while.
Stagnation will see gates fall and ultimately we will go part-time like the rest.
Speculate to accumulate… blah, blah, blah.
Money for old rope, clutching at straws.
Successful recruitment in industry is poor – with only a 30% success rate.
Football tends to be even worse.
I’ve looked at the top 4 teams – 2 have HoR, 2 don’t… I’m guessing that there will be more teams without HoRs than with?
November 27, 2024 at 1:43 am #294647the clubs dead. deirdrie sidey snotty idiot insider and bru killed it by forcing dave away
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November 27, 2024 at 2:03 am #294648Could be wrong but pretty sure I heard Butler saying pre-match there’s a real prospect of part time next season without promotion. So whoever said that last week (which I questioned) sounds like you could be right.
<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>I think a few people have expressed this view?
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<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>From the Head of Recruitment thread:Does a 2nd tier non-league team actually need a Head of Recruitment?
How many other teams in this league have one?
Is it a waste of £50k a year?
Surely Stan (Butler) & Jack (Schofield) have enough contacts within the game and desperate players seeking trials?
If the HoR ‘finds’ five players a season then that works out at £10k a player.
Seems we’re trying to desperately cling to our ‘professional’ status and haven’t accepted our fate and faced the facts.
We’re non-league and looking as if we’ll be grounded in this league for a while.
Stagnation will see gates fall and ultimately we will go part-time like the rest.
Speculate to accumulate… blah, blah, blah.
Money for old rope, clutching at straws.
Successful recruitment in industry is poor – with only a 30% success rate.
Football tends to be even worse.
I’ve looked at the top 4 teams – 2 have HoR, 2 don’t… I’m guessing that there will be more teams without HoRs than with?
I’m Sure Many Other Forumistas Have Also Said The Same or Similar
November 27, 2024 at 6:10 am #294651Well that was a waste of petrol; not to mention five hours of my life!
Nice to see he stuck with the same formation, but style of play was absolutely terrible. We have the players, but not the manager to get it out of them.
Beck and Whitehall don’t work well together either. Full backs nowhere near attacking enough and play far too deep. They’re clearly being asked to play this safely as they hardly ventured over the half way line.
Against Darlo was a perfect example of going out there not to lose, rather than going out there to win. Scales came on and literally gave the ball away nearly every time he attempted a pass. I counted that he only found a team mate 3 or 4 times and even they were 2 yard passes.
Terrible.
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November 27, 2024 at 7:36 am #294653I do think Deerey had a point a week or so ago. The back 5 didn’t help, but there are bigger problems afoot. I am not convinced by the balance of the squad and wonder if they actually are good enough.
This.
We were outplayed during large periods of the game last night, not through a dodgy ref or negative tactics, but a better footballing side on a large pitch.
A lot has been pinned on the formation whereas I’ve always thought that it was a red herring, I’ve heard from a few people now that our squad just isn’t good enough and that’s becoming more apparent by the week.
Our ball retention is very poor, unless we go sideways along the back line then it unlikely we keep possession for a noteworthy length of time. Last night our shooting was diabolical, barely registered a shot on target from a few good positions.
Positives are another clean sheet and some incredible goalkeeping- Beck also looks to be an astute signing, we just need to start making better runs off him
As he hardly loses a ball in the air.1 user thanked author for this post.
November 27, 2024 at 8:48 am #294657I thought the first half was OK, second half poor. A point won by Fitz alone. Serious shooting practice required before Saturday Andy, no shots on target in the 90+ minutes is unacceptable. Yet, if two players had hit the target with chances you’d reasonably expect them to score then we could have come away with a totally undeserved 3 points.
November 27, 2024 at 8:54 am #294661Seen better passing on a Subbuteo pitch than our lot can muster.
Shooting is like they’ve got a sand wedge installed on their boots.And as our fitness is supposedly superior we should be closing down the ball.
Beck and Whitehall won’t work when they follow each other around.
It’s a painful watch
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November 27, 2024 at 9:05 am #294663A dull performance, indeed.
One upside – I think that Will looks to be playing better. (Still not as good as last year, though.)
Is it me or are we getting more out of Denton too?
I like Beck but even so, far too much lumping the ball upfield to him.1 user thanked author for this post.
November 27, 2024 at 9:13 am #294664We were like a pub team in a pub league playing on a rugby pitch! If we have any intention of getting out of this division we seriously need to up the ante.
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November 27, 2024 at 9:19 am #294665We keep hearing that “we have the players” but the evidence from so many matches and last season suggests the opposite.
One look at the goalscorer stats doesn’t give me any confidence that these players are above the standard of the rest of the league, apart from Roberts none of them are on target for 20 goals and the midfielders will not even get 5.
Not the stats for a promotion winning or above standard team, whatever the tactics.
November 27, 2024 at 9:30 am #294667We keep hearing that “we have the players” but the evidence from so many matches and last season suggests the opposite.
One look at the goalscorer stats doesn’t give me any confidence that these players are above the standard of the rest of the league, apart from Roberts none of them are on target for 20 goals and the midfielders will not even get 5.
Not the stats for a promotion winning or above standard team, whatever the tactics.
The two new signings have not significantly improved things, either.
November 27, 2024 at 9:54 am #294669Didn’t watch or listen but comments appear to say we didn’t play well, so a draw in those circumstances doesnt seem a bad result with it being away.
November 27, 2024 at 10:45 am #294670Didn’t watch or listen but comments appear to say we didn’t play well, so a draw in those circumstances doesnt seem a bad result with it being away.
You missed nothing. Darlington were the better team. Not for Fitz we’d of lost.
We barely had a shot worthy of note.1 user thanked author for this post.
November 27, 2024 at 12:00 pm #294675Play controlled balls to Beck and he’ll suit us very well.
(There also needs to be a lot of practice in training for forward-moving players judging the right place to be for his knock downs.)
Luke Williams has class. I’m not sure that we yet know where (or possibly HOW) to play him, though.November 27, 2024 at 12:09 pm #294676I fear it’s in Roberts position after January.
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November 27, 2024 at 2:08 pm #294677Some of the words from the manager says it all – “I am happy with the point…..”
Said before targeting is negative. It will not achieve success because it encourages mediocrity. What is the point of having 2 big centre forwards and no wing play ?
Last season the support was to help save the club, this season they expect entertainment. Read the postings on last nights game, they were not entertained and may make people not want to travel away. The next thing will be home gates will fall because the fans are being treated with contempt.
Whatever level a managers intention should be to want to win ALL games, what is wrong in that. But to be happy with a point will encourage a fall in interest and the comments on the standard of passing are disturbing. Can’t pass the ball, one of the most important of skills comes from disinterest.
If a Manager cannot sort that out he is in the wrong profession.
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November 27, 2024 at 2:37 pm #294679Seeing us consistently hoof the ball up towards Beck last night was a truly depressing watch. We look bereft of creativity, and toothless up front. If it were not from some desperate last ditch defending, and saves from Fitzsimons, we would have been looking at a defeat.
Whilst I am pleased that we managed to gain a point from last night, I am hugely concerned with the shocking drop in form, and if this is not arrested swiftly, we will undoubtedly find ourselves out of the play-offs by the end of the year.
November 27, 2024 at 2:46 pm #294680Even playing 4/4/2 Butler still played with no width and the full backs are that deep at times they were more like wide CB’S. I don’t get it. Everything we played seemed to go down the middle and all of it was being nullified . Butler just stood there and made no alteration, we kept trying something which clearly didn’t work.
How do you manage to field a 4/4/2 and play with no width, despite having 2 big lads up front, one being a 6ft 5 old fashioned targetman in Beck ?
I’m sure I only counted 3 or 4 balls in the box and even they were poor. I’m still of the opinion that we need a more capable manager who’s going to form us into some kind of cohesive unit.
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