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September 27, 2021 at 11:34 pm #214371
I don’t understand after going in at halftime why a team comes out for the second half and seems worse than the first half.Normally we all know that after the managers instructions they usually get better ????
Premier-Iron——It is so easy to answer your question Premier, at half time it is normal for managers to sum up tyhe first half of the game, and request their team of what is required to rectify the situation.
All that the other team manager has to say to his players is:- come on lads we are only playing Scunthorpe, now lets take the game seriously and give them a thrashing, I told you all during the week that they have only won one game in their last 19 matches, do you really want the honoiur of being the second team they beat in such a long period of time.
So that is one managers job done, whilst the brains trust of Cox, Lillis and Mussa just instruct the team that they must drop more into defending, and telling them that although they had trained well during the week today is match day, so they must ease up and save themselves till Mondays training session.
That has answered your question Premier, and get ready to change your logo in May from Premier-Iron to Non-League-Iron.
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September 29, 2021 at 8:47 am #214414Like most on here I like Cox, he seems like a really nice bloke however, with each passing match I am becoming more and more certain that he just doesn’t have the experience, knowledge, or confidence to get us out of our current mess.
With the constraints that are surrounding the club right now we desperately need an experienced manager who has a proven track record of polishing turds and getting the best out of a squad that is low on ability and confidence. I fear if we don’t call in an experienced manager soon we will swiftly find ourselves several points adrift at the foot of the table.
Sorry to say this…”Cox Out”.
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September 29, 2021 at 10:00 am #214416When I was teaching I remember our caretaker, who was a bit of an old cynic saying to me “when I come back in the next life, I want to be a PE teacher. All they do is kick around with the kids all day!” As he looked out over the playing fields.
I reckon Cox and his coaches are pretty much glorified PE teachers. They’ll have a lesson plan for each training session, and tick off each item covered. Like any class of mixed ability pupils they won’t expect everyone to perform to the same level, just as long as they do their best, so Cox can say “we had a really good training session”.
However when it comes to tactics and motivation – well I don’t think that’s part of Saturday Club!
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September 29, 2021 at 10:11 am #214417I think the major problem is that although I very much appreciate we are in an awful position and in terrible form, if we did pull the trigger on Cox – who would want to come here and who could we actually afford?
I feel sorry for Neil, I don’t know if he quite realised the challenge he was facing by taking the job, and I think with a decent squad and budget he would do OK. The club over the last 2 seasons is no place for anyone to learn their trade.
As an aside, I notice Nigel is under a bit of pressure from the fans at Charlton…
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September 29, 2021 at 10:21 am #214418who would want to come here and who could we actually afford?
1,000 times this!
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September 29, 2021 at 1:18 pm #214422While in the job he gets all the flak. Sympathy for him ? Not a jot.
Solely down to him where we are.
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September 29, 2021 at 3:40 pm #214428I believe we have the squad, but you do need to send your team out with intent, in the main when we do we have had more positive results, most would accept losing if we at least gave it a go.
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September 29, 2021 at 4:01 pm #214429Neil for me is overly cautious and tactically naive but to say he is solely to blame is surely unfair.
I think the absent landlord has a fair amount of responsibility here.
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September 29, 2021 at 5:35 pm #214430I’m far from happy with the status quo at Glanford Park these days. But I don’t think the answer is resorting to sacking yet another manager.
If we escape relegation this year, and I’m certain that there are more than two teams performing worse than dear old Scunny. He should be allowed to buy a few more players and aim a little higher next season.
The problem lies with the chairman and his team (family.)
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September 29, 2021 at 6:22 pm #214432I wish I shared your optimism that there are 2 teams worse than us in League 2. Even the basket case that is Oldham got an away win on Saturday. Something that has eluded the Iron for some time.
Hope your correct but at the moment I am believing the bookies who have us firm favourites for the drop.
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September 29, 2021 at 8:51 pm #214433Cox out and get Squeaky man from Whartons stand row C seat 65 in, at least he has got some passion left.
Plus he is entertaining.
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September 29, 2021 at 9:08 pm #214434September 29, 2021 at 9:21 pm #214436Squeaky man has never managed a League club.
Furthermore……He has no managerial experience whatsoever. He is surrounded by people with no knowledge about coaching a football club and would not have a clue in the transfer market.
If Peter Swann said shit he would leap onto the shovel.
Oh dear
September 30, 2021 at 9:23 am #214439I’m certain that there are more than two teams performing worse than dear old Scunny
I know it’s only September but the league table currently disagrees with you.
The problem lies with the chairman and his team (family.)
This is exactly where all our frustration should be directed.
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September 30, 2021 at 10:34 pm #214465Squeaky man has never managed a League club.
Furthermore……He has no managerial experience whatsoever. He is surrounded by people with no knowledge about coaching a football club and would not have a clue in the transfer market.
If Peter Swann said shit he would leap onto the shovel.
Oh dear
Ironking—–that summary you have published above suits the present squad of management that is already running the club.
Cox has never managed a football club, he was assistant in non-league.
Cox is surrounded by non experienced coaches, Lillis and Mussa.
And the present recruitment team have no bloody clue in transfers, just look at our squad!!.
And Swann is not arround and has no interest in SUFC, so he cannot say shit, unless he is making reference to our team. The complete lot want kicking out of our club.October 1, 2021 at 12:35 am #214467This squad “even though unbalanced” has a lot more ability in it than we’re currently seeing. I firmly believe that.
I’m certain that with a more experienced manager who’s been around the block, who will fully/correctly utilize the squad to it’s maximum potential would get much more out of them.
Wilson is just 1 example of yet another promising youngster overlooked. Now, who would come is another thing entirely.
There must be a half decent manager out there somewhere who’s sick of his wife nagging him for getting under her feet ?
Let whoever it is have to end of the season and then take it from there, least he’ll see less of Swann as he’s hardly seen anymore.
Every cloud and all that !
What about Ronnie Moore ?…pay him magic beans
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October 1, 2021 at 9:38 am #214477Wilson is just 1 example of yet another promising youngster overlooked
We should definitely be making more of our youth team but at the same time it says a lot about where we are that a completely unproven teenager is our big hope at the moment.
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October 1, 2021 at 2:46 pm #214493I remember a few years ago our saviour was to be NZ international Clayton Lewis. We were all (almost) overwhelmed by a signing that would transform our team and fortunes. How many saw him play?
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October 1, 2021 at 4:06 pm #214498I am sure I saw him play at least once. Wandered about, hit the odd decent pass and didn’t tackle anybody. Think Perry or our 2 loan midfielders.
October 1, 2021 at 4:54 pm #214499Saw him playing for NZ not the Iron. Wasn’t he another great ‘club signing’?
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October 1, 2021 at 5:29 pm #214503Bizzarly Wiki says he played 19 times for the Iron. Must be including unused sub appearances.
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October 1, 2021 at 8:41 pm #214516Wilson is just 1 example of yet another promising youngster overlooked
We should definitely be making more of our youth team but at the same time it says a lot about where we are that a completely unproven teenager is our big hope at the moment.
I would say big hope is stretching it but he looked really promising in pre season in which he was direct and had that bit of ability to past players but been frozen out.
All the most weird when we’re struggling for quality wide players. I also think it’s odd why O’Malley isn’t being used on the left wing with Thompson LB.
Surely he would be better there than playing our best CM in Beestin out there ?
All a bit odd. Least with O’Malley he’ll have the instincts to track back with being a natural LB, he’s got good delivery on him and good pace.
Hippolyte looked good in CM but out wide he’s awful so I wouldn’t even consider him a viable option. Green’s being garbage and Bunn isn’t bad but always picking up injuries.
Why not play Davis next to Onariase with Thompson and Millen in the FB slots, O’Malley and Wilson out wide with Beestin and Wood/pugh in CM with Loft and Scrimshaw up top and just go positive for once.
You never know the unthinkable might happen, we may actually score and win a game. All this playing Beestin LW and going ultra defensive isn’t doing anything anyway as we’re still getting beat.
Only we’re getting beat, hardly showing anything going forward and are boring everybody to death.
October 2, 2021 at 10:51 am #214542Hippolyte looked good in CM
I would say looked good is stretching it!
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October 2, 2021 at 1:29 pm #214545…if we did pull the trigger on Cox – who would want to come here and who could we actually afford?
And whose fault is that?
October 2, 2021 at 7:05 pm #214584Ernest Pawn needs to go NOW !!!! No doubt about that.
But will getting rid of Ernest make Neil a better manager? No is the answer.
As Rory Fallon said ‘they came out in the second half looking flat and lacking energy’.
The team have one serious 90 minute training session on a Tuesday.
Sunday and Monday off recovery, Wednesday off or light session, Thursday tactics (15 mins probably!) Friday light session pending game.
90 minutes per week hard training and 90 minutes on a Saturday afternoon.
The alarm bells rang for me last season when you could hear Neil screeching during a game on radio because they don’t work hard enough during the week.
Then there is the famous we gave players homework via IT and they didn’t do it! F#####G WHAT?
Record says it all Cox has to go.
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October 3, 2021 at 11:39 am #214629A position has just become available at his old club – Watford!
D’ya reckon he might apply for the job?
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October 3, 2021 at 2:09 pm #214637Hippolyte looked good in CM
I would say looked good is stretching it!
This is in comparison to his efforts out wide. I actually though him and Pugh were starting to have a good understanding in CM but Cox ripped it all up.
I quite like Hippolyte there personally. I’d much rather he played there than out wide.
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October 3, 2021 at 4:39 pm #214645A position has just become available at his old club – Watford!
D’ya reckon he might apply for the job?
Yes but it’s a managers job NI not a turnstile operator.
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October 3, 2021 at 7:59 pm #214662Hippolyte is one of the worst players ever to have put on a Scunny shirt, I really rated your views on things mate, but to suggest that Hippo will ever make a footballer is taking it a bit too far.
Young Wilson and Pugh should both be in the team, but they cannot even make the bench with Cox and his brains trust in charge, no it is wrong to say “in charge” because they are in charge of nothing, they do not have a bloody clue. O’Malley has really gone down hill, and all danger of Newports came from him being skinned time after time.
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October 3, 2021 at 8:55 pm #214673Hippolyte is one of the worst players ever to have put on a Scunny shirt
You obviously haven’t seen the likes of Tomi Ameobi and Andy Parton back in the day then. Matt Bailey is still the worst player I’ve seen to this date.
Look, Hippolyte isn’t great and I’ve never really rated him. I said he was good in CM in comparison to how he’s been out wide. I have never once said he’s somebody you can hang your hat on.
Hippolyte was starting to look half decent in central midfield with Pugh. Those two played pretty well and coincided with us looking like we were starting to turn a corner. I never once said Hippolyte was a footballing genius or the next coming of Ruud Gullit.
So, let’s calm it down a bit here. I’ve said he was crap from day one but he was starting to look decent in cm. Put it this way, at least he was contributing.
Pugh should be back in. I keep saying it, play 442 for fuck sake. No Beestin on the left wing, stick O’Malley there and Bring Wilson in.
All these square pegs in round holes and ultra defensive line ups are driving me fecking nuts. Hackney can piss off but Wood can stay around, still think he has something.
Play with some width for crying out loud. Cox better pull it together pretty sharpish or he’ll get jeered if he doesn’t watch it.
If he had anything about him he’d accept he’s not up to it and walk away like somebody else said yesterday.
All he’s doing now is prolonging the inevitable.
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