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    BloodyRubbishIronBloodyRubbishIron
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    So Johnson rewards this IRA defending, genocide denying charlatan because she backed Brexit. Gone are any illusions that this government were being sincere in their oppositions to Corbyn over his stance on the IRA or the Balkans.

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    Or it could have been because of her alleged support of Gary Glitter’s right to download child porn. As Vader points out, Corbyn didn’t get elected, but Johnson’s inner circle is full of Revolutionary Communist Party members.

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    ‘Gone are any illusions that this government were being sincere in their oppositions to Corbyn over his stance on the IRA or the Balkans.’

    Why, did anyone believe that? Sincere? This lot should be banged to rights. But they won’t be.

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    Tbh, there was an alternative to this shit show but too many people took issue with Corbyn. You’re now reaping what you sowed. End of.

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    Well done but please stop moaning about what you could have prevented.

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    Or it could have been because of her alleged support of Gary Glitter’s right to download child porn. As Vader points out, Corbyn didn’t get elected, but Johnson’s inner circle is full of Revolutionary Communist Party members.

    The RCP/Living Marxism crowd are strange. They all as one seemingly dropped their left wing nature and became right wing libertarians, like cult members following the leader. Now they are the darlings of the right, despite their past and they haven’t dropped their tactics which they had on the left. They are small in number, but seem to infiltrate other organisations where they have prominent roles.

    They are a bunch of provocateurs and wreckers, but conservatives seem to like them despite their past and more radical tactics which would frighten them if they were being undertaken on the left.

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    ‘Gone are any illusions that this government were being sincere in their oppositions to Corbyn over his stance on the IRA or the Balkans.’

    Why, did anyone believe that? Sincere? This lot should be banged to rights. But they won’t be.

    I didn’t, but I am making it clear to anyone who disliked Corbyn for these reasons that if they want to be seen as principled they can’t just shrug this off and say what about Labour or ignore it.

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    Tbh, there was an alternative to this shit show but too many people took issue with Corbyn. You’re now reaping what you sowed. End of.

    I was despondent about the 2019 election, because I disliked both leaders. I didn’t vote Labour, nor did I vote Tory, but I am not regretting it. Corbyn was not only useless, but immoral, and I am not feeling bad about not having that morally defunct man as PM. I don’t believe his handling of the pandemic would have been good and his less than savoury foreign policy views would have caused an issue with regards to the Russia report as well and China. I couldn’t stomach voting for Labour, because doing so would be to abandon my moral views on foreign policy and to throw Jews under the bus and say that racism is ok if you get the right policies. His and his allies actions upon losing, including taking action because the whistle blowers he smeared were apologised to which could bankrupt the party, the release of a dodgy report which breached others’ privacy and was criticised as misleading by a pro-Corbyn Labour lawyer and palling around with his old gang of far left cranks like STW/SWP does nothing but make me thankful he is consigned to the back benches. And the back benches are probably too good for him, because the EHRC report is likely to be damning and his actions against those who tried to stop the problem will be enough for me to think he’ll need to be suspended from the party/have the whip withdrawn.

    I think Labour need to do some self-introspection if they want to cast blame for what went wrong. The public weren’t clamouring for Corbyn’s brand of “true socialism” and that has been evident for years, yet they persisted. Labour were in a bad position in 2015 under Ed Miliband, but the course of correction wasn’t Corbyn, and that was clear very early on from a point of competence and ethics. They had a chance to at least put someone in who wasn’t vile when Owen Smith challenged him, but his supporters pretended that Corbyn wasn’t deeply unpopular and incompetent. The 2017 election bolstered their beliefs that this time the public will come to see the righteous path of Corbynism, but the warning signs were there. Red wall seats had seen a growing Tory vote, paving the way for 2019 when the Labour vote collapsed, especially after Corbyn made it clear that he was a threat to what the public see as British values. He saw a deep dip in support when he spouted the Russia line over the Skripals and the anti-Semitism disturbed people. This made the public think he is not going to support Britain, and security is not something to be scoffed at, and was inept at handling issues within the party. People judged that him being PM would be chaotic and not serving British interests. We need to address concerns like these to win an election and if we’re putting forward a deeply unpopular candidate while ignoring the public’s concerns we cannot turn round and blame others when this candidate is rejected at the ballot box.

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    ‘we cannot turn round and blame others when this candidate is rejected at the ballot box.’

    No, you’re right. Enjoy the next 4 years.

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    I wouldn’t have enjoyed the next four years if Corbyn was leader either.

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