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‘Finished second and scored 84 – best in the league. Goal difference – 46 best in the league. Went out on a playoff penalty.’
Personally, I don’t think these ‘more important’ numbers tell the full story Gurney. Taking them in isolation masks a lot of negative aspects already well rehearsed on this thread and others.
‘Fans have such short memories, but just think back. At the start of the season when the club’s very survival was in doubt, would anyone on here have thought those numbers unacceptable? Would anyone on here possessed of their faculties have thought they would be grounds for managerial renewal?’
I don’t think it’s healthy or wise to live in the past or view it from an earlier time. We are where we are, in the here and now with the future to think about carefully and strategically. That said, the Board will decide and I’m happy to support it. Just opinions and if he stays who knows, he may just succeed?
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DM – goals and points don’t tell the full story? If you want a winning team they’re the most important elements of it. Never mind the moaning about ‘chopping and changing’, the ‘awful substitutions’, the ‘terrified of losing’ etc. etc. mentioned above. The stats and table don’t lie.
What do you want, lose a thrilling match 3-4 each week and and flirt with relegation?
Everyone wants an entertaining side, but once again, this is NLN, and it’s often not pretty. Then again, football often isn’t. Maybe we get spoiled by the amount of elite footy on tv, especially the highlights which cut out the boring bits.
Sanfran is right about fickle, moaning supporters. But look, all fans suffer. It’s part of the game. And as in football, so in life. The religiously persuaded might think of it as a test of endurance, which He allows us to suffer as part of the trials of life, to humble us and make us more like Him. Those above, so quick to chuck in the towel, turn their backs and run, should pause a moment for reflection and have a quiet word with their spiritual guardians, not least themselves.
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DM – ‘goals and points don’t tell the full story? If you want a winning team they’re the most important elements of it. Never mind the moaning about ‘chopping and changing’, the ‘awful substitutions’, the ‘terrified of losing’ etc. etc. mentioned above. The stats and table don’t lie.’
Disagree with most of that.
‘What do you want, lose a thrilling match 3-4 each week and and flirt with relegation?’
What some supporters would prefer has been well rehearsed. But no, I don’t want that.
‘Everyone wants an entertaining side, but once again, this is NLN, and it’s often not pretty. Then again, football often isn’t. Maybe we get spoiled by the amount of elite footy on tv, especially the highlights which cut out the boring bits.’
You may get spoilt with it, I don’t. I watch the elite level, our level and right down to step 9, often, so I wouldn’t personally say I’m spoilt.
‘Sanfran is right about fickle, moaning supporters. But look, all fans suffer. It’s part of the game. And as in football, so in life. The religiously persuaded might think of it as a test of endurance, which He allows us to suffer as part of the trials of life, to humble us and make us more like Him. Those above, so quick to chuck in the towel, turn their backs and run, should pause a moment for reflection and have a quiet word with their spiritual guardians, not least themselves.’
If you want to bring religion on to it as well as Brexit, as you did the other day, that’s your call. Personally I think it’s a tight shoehorn.
Yeah. I essentially used it as a short-hand for the style of football we have been used to under him. One up front, possession focused football.
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Don’t know how many games you saw Gurney to reach that conclusion. I saw every home game and about a dozen away games. Saw live streams of another 5 or so away games.
All season we have been the footballing equivalent of flat track bullies. Any team that could be beaten with half an hours effort by a bunch of vastly superior footballer were despatched, often with a goal or three to spare.
Any team with basic organisation, prepared to go 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 and work hard for the full 90 and we were clueless. Odd flashes of high quality from Butterfield, Smith and Roberts sneaked us the odd win in these games but usually we huffed and puffed without much idea until gifting the opposition a goal or two with a schoolboy error.
Tactically we were outfought and out thought by most of the top ten clubs. One other observation is that I never saw another team where I would have swapped more than 2 of our players for their players.
In my world this means the only reason we were not promoted was our coaching team was not up to the task. If they had started poorly and got better then I would say give them a chance to keep up the improvement but the truth of it is they started out OK and struggled to stay there.
I challenge anyone to tell me in any way the team improved during the season?
I challenge anyone to tell me a player that improved during the season? (apart from those that magically improved when they played on loan for other teams).
I like Dean and was desperate for him to learn how to manage full time footballers. If he had a contract already for next season I would honour it.
Would I give him and his staff a new contract for next season? No.
Having said all that if Jimmy gets the gig I will be there supporting my club, my team and my manager next season but without great expectations.
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It’s so easy to call anyone who criticises a fickle supporter.
It wasn’t because we lost on penalties that I am so disappointed.
It’s not the fact that we finished second after the scariest season of my life that I am openly critical.
Dean should not have been appointed in the first place. He should not have been allowed to take us into this season – although we still had Hilton them and nobody knew what was happening.
It’s the total lack of progression that makes me mad. We all know that we had the best squad in the league. Occasionally we played some great football – my mate from Oxford met met away at Banbury and said that we played like Brazil!!
Even Burney would have got us into the play-offs. So Dean has failed.
He is out of contract, so just let him go. Please find us someone with a proper Plan A and a structures Plan B. Two up top and proper substitutions.
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‘Even Burney would have got us into the play-offs’
And he’d have pissed league!
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He is out of contract as far as we are aware, unless of course he has signed one secretly
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I’m chucking out the idea of chucking it in.
Jimbob terminated.
Happy days!
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It sounds financial to me, but I think it is because Rene Artois threatened not to come to matches anymore
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Agree Mick, the statement definitely came across as being more of a financial decision and a chance to lower wages with a new, cheaper management team.
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