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Might hold off on that £20 at 15/2.
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1 great goal, 2 tap ins, 40 minutes before Fitzsimmons made a save, we’ve had efforts but either off target or easy saves
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Against a team two divisions above so not a mega surprise, the real test starts next Saturday away at Brackley.
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On a non-footballing side note the catering was well wide of the mark tonight. Girl serving looked like she was going to go into cardiac arrest at half time and the food was taking far too long to get out. Might the incinerated goat rise like a phoenix from the ashes next season?
The food was crap, as well. Basic hot dog – no onions, no ketchup available.
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Few weeks ago went to Barton for a friendly and thought oh dear we don’t have much of a clue how to play 3 at the back. I didn’t think we had the right centre backs to play the system (i.e. ones that cam play a bit of football) and I didn’t see any wing backs in the squad (just 3 out and out full backs and 2 out and out wingers).
Just watched us play us play Chesterfield who I accept are much higher quality than anyone else we will play this season but sadly have seen nothing tonight or in any of the other friendlies to change my mind since the Barton game. 3 CB’s on the field with 2 full backs (sorry, wing backs) who probably see themselves primarily as centre backs and we still let the likes of Colclough win headers in the 6 yard box.
One of the reasons I dislike 3 centre backs at this level is invariably none of them can play any constructive football. If you compound this by playing out and out defenders as wing backs then 5 of your team offer no creativity.
When your 2 centre midfielders are Scales and Clunan who made about 3 assists and scored about 3 goals between them in a freescoring team last season then that puts an awful lot of pressure on your 10. Not surprisingly Rowley was not up to single handedly creating lots of chances. Not helped by the fact that whenever the midfield got the ball into the centre forward his poor touch set up a Chesterfield counter attack. This happened 4 or 5 times in the first half alone.
Only positive for the Iron was Chesterfield couldn’t be arsed to go on to get 6 or 7.
Will travel to Brackley in hope but very little expectation.
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On a non-footballing side note the catering was well wide of the mark tonight. Girl serving looked like she was going to go into cardiac arrest at half time and the food was taking far too long to get out. Might the incinerated goat rise like a phoenix from the ashes next season?
I doubt the club would have the Goat back after their issues off the field. Saying no more.
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MK Iron’s post is spot on. When you analyse the scoring potential in Butlers scheme of play,the outcome is predictable.
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Pre season is what it is, neither upbeat or downbeat just fitness sharpness formations etc, rather lose all and win v Brackley, but my mind goes back to 3-5-2 days and it never seemed to work, and was quite disappointing to watch. I like two up top but I also like a plan B which Dean never had.
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This being the last pre-season game I would have expected the anticipated 10th August team to have started this game. If they did then we have big problems. Does AB still not know his “best” line up?
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Options appear limited to pies, sausage rolls, foot long Lincolnshire hot dog and a tinned hot dog
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Given Butler is obviously going to stand or fall with 3 centre backs then I agree with SST regarding Denton, Roberts and Brogan have to start and also Scales at RWB.
I would also suggest Kouogan, Evans and Nicholson need to be the 3 as they can all pass the ball better than Boyce.
I would probably start with Whitehall and Carlton up front with Beestin getting 30 minutes – probably for Whitehall who has been poor throughout preseason.
One last moan about 3 at the back and then I will shut up about it. Whatever we think were the reasons we didn’t get promoted last season the one thing no-one could blame was our back four. Even Tamworth would have swapped theirs for ours. Why then is that the bit that needs changing? Apart from needing to replace Ogle obviously.
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The most effective side I saw line up with 3-5-2 were Boston last year; they were excellent at playing the ball through the middle starting with the short Goal kick. The extra presence up front also allowed them to better press and usually force us long.
Teams don’t get the space out wide they once did, players are fitter, faster and stronger and more often than not it ends up as 2 vs 1 for the winger forcing him inside.
You make good points though MK; my concerns are where Roberts fits into the system, and whether the wing backs end up dropping into a 5-3-2 which could be a tough watch and end up with us pissing about with the ball at the back for far too long as we did last year.
The majority of Teams will be happy with a point again and I expect to see 2 banks of 5 posing a challenge for us to break down. Against the better sides, Jimmy came up tactically short and subsequently cost us the title. If Butler can solve that problem, there’s a good chance he will be lifting a title in May.
Options appear limited to pies, sausage rolls, foot long Lincolnshire hot dog and a tinned hot dog
Cheap tinned hotdogs are the devil’s own revenge on humanity.If our much vaunted catering manager considers these acceptable he’s in for a hard life on this side of the river
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Sorry for repeating myself but I still think that “pick your best 10 outfield players and use a system that plays to their strengths” easily beats ” pick a system and make your players fit into it.” Of course we’ll all have different opinions as to the “best 10” but surely there’s no doubt that Roberts is in it.
Agree Cass but you wouldn’t be signing Roberts or Law if you were planning to play 3 at the back.
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How about 3-4-3 with Roberts, Whitehall & Carlton as a front 3. That would pose problems for most opponents you’d think.
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