At My Lowest Point Of Being An Iron Fan

[mistertonmick]

After the great seasons of watching the Iron over the last 59 years, and I have seen the dark days in the 70s when we had little support and money, I have seen some great football under Laws and Nige with a few hick ups in between but the team tried hard to win games and we used create loads of chances whether we won, lost or drew, I had some great days out regardless of results land seen some fantastic players play for the club, but this last 3 seasons have been unreal, the way we got relegated 2 seasons ago with that run in when 10 points from 15 games would have kept us up to the bad start last season and the untimely sacking of Hurst because the Chairman wanted to have a bigger cull last season and bring youngsters in then,then more backs to the wall football from Russ with the home defeat to Grimsby without a shot on target looked like starting another drop down the league until Covid saved us, then the departures in the Summer and the massive recruitment of players nobody had heard of has now taken us to a new low football and results wise, we have won one game with a lot of luck and Watson finally having a good game, well it was overdue after 47 games, but now we have been conceding for fun with exciting tactics where we hardly have a shot at goal but the only grace we have is we have a few players coming back from injury and signed Junior Brown, but will it stop the rot because confidence is low and though fans were pleased when Neil Cox and Mark Lillis came back we were promised 4 4 2 exciting football and we have seen the total opposite, so if this continues I will not renew my season ticket and just go to a few games, if we are allowed back.

[bartonscorpion]

I am feeling exactly as yourself Mick, but I don’t know if you feel the same as myself, but I have the feeling that the clubs top management are doing very little to stem the rot.. The fact that the club has about 32 players in their squad, it is not the fact that we are short of players, the truth is that we have the numbers, but we do not have the quality, and worst of all we are very short of effort and fight, just look at last weeks 0-5 home thrashing, players were seen just standing around and not even interested.

If things get this bad, and this has now gone on for over three years, our supporters expect some corrective action from the top management, but many of us that have given Mr Swann our full backing from day one, are now changing our minds, and feel that most of the blame can be pointed in the durection of the board room. We have lost most of our best players, have signed on an assistant manager from the National League who stated that he would have his team playing attacking entertaining football, we are all aware of the shite that is being served up, but no remarks are fourthcoming from the top on what is going to be done to alter this rubbish. At the end of the day, we can all see us ending up being a none league team, this is for sure. And the managers attacking football can be seen in the teams record, last week ONE SHOT ON TARGET, this week TWO SHOTS ON TARGET, how the hell is this entertaining football Mr Cox???

After supporting and watching Scunthorpe since 1951, home and many away trips, we deserve better, no matter if we are 68 year supporters or first year fans, we are all bloody fed up with the way things are being run, this one player up front when playing at home, and the 70 minutes of defending when playing other shite teams is pathetic, and WE WANT SOMETHING DOING ABOUT IT”!!!!

And if and when the chairman sacks the manager, please have him get someone in to select the replacement, because Mr Swanns record of choosing managers is bloody terrible.

[Northumbiron]

Scapegoats over recent seasons.

1. A manager who doesn’t know the club and it’s importance to the town.

2. Lazy 30 something wage-thieves who only come here to top up their pension. These are the same players who keep our exciting young talent out of the match day squad.

3. Fans who get on the players’ backs or who berate the manager from the terraces.

Well, guess what? Done of this applies to the current season. So who will the scapegoat be this time?

[WonderGoals]

Northumbiron wrote:

So who will the scapegoat be this time?

Even though we’ve had the longest off season to recruit players, it will all be blamed on covid.

What/who else is there to blame ?

Swann’s not going to come out and admit his idiotic decision making and meddling is what’s to blame, is he ?

[Ironawe]

It’s what the fans wanted ……this is the narrative the club are peddling so it will be our fault.

[Ferrite]

It’s frustrating because normally you could show your dissatisfaction by voting with your feet and keeping your money in your pocket but at the moment we just have to sit and wait and see what happens.

I expected a reaction last night and you could argue we got it but the trouble is that’s all we got!

[mistertonmick]

Ironawe wrote:

It’s what the fans wanted ……this is the narrative the club are peddling so it will be our fault.

we did, but not get rid of 80% of experienced players and replace them with non league players who some couldn’t get into their former team, also he has wanted to do this since we lost at Rotherham and dilly dallying helped in Daws getting sacked and Hurst getting sacked last season for bringing players in while the club wanted to cut back last season so now we have seen what happens I can see Football League records for the number of consecutive defeats.

[vader]

I agree with most on here, over the last 40years I have seen both the highs and the lows but where we are now is the lowest of the low which is ironic given we have chairman who came in criticised how the club was been run and promised the earth, new stadium, championship status ect and here we are looking at non league next season. We weren’t such a poorly run club under Wharton and Co were we.

[waltersleftfoot]

Feel the same as Mick and BS,60 years of support,and our once great little football,is being slowly eroded,by people who have not got a clue how to run a bath never mind a football club,and yes it was better under Steve Wharton,he let the manager manage,feel very bitter towards Swann

[Greylag]

Just a theoretical question. Do property developers/racehorse owners automatically know anything about football?

[Awaywego]

No more than what we do. would like to see more of the Salford experiment (could be a rich players plaything) but at least they are ex footballers.

[Northumbiron]

Greylag wrote:

Do property developers/racehorse owners automatically know anything about football?

Do Old Etonian journalists automatically know anything about virology?

No! But it doesn’t stop them behaving like they do.

[mistertonmick]

waltersleftfoot wrote:

Feel the same as Mick and BS,60 years of support,and our once great little football,is being slowly eroded,by people who have not got a clue how to run a bath never mind a football club,and yes it was better under Steve Wharton,he let the manager manage,feel very bitter towards Swann

exactly, in the 70s and 80s expectations were low but we supported the club and usually put out the same 11 every week in their proper positions and we used to try to win games by attacking teams and some we won and some we didn’t with possibly worse players than we have now, no 5 at the back and negative formations, even if we lost usually the opposing keeper earned his money, now we hardly have a shot at goal and it’s boring to watch with players playing out of position etc.

vader wrote:

I agree with most on here, over the last 40years I have seen both the highs and the lows but where we are now is the lowest of the low which is ironic given we have chairman who came in criticised how the club was been run and promised the earth, new stadium, championship status ect and here we are looking at non league next season. We weren’t such a poorly run club under Wharton and Co were we.

I think a lot of this has been brought on by not getting the new ground done and the Chairman has lost a lot of interest.

[waltersleftfoot]

Couldn’t agree more Mick,talking to Rick Green the other day,as an ex player he feels that the players he played with could still give this lot a run for their money now

[cassidystash]

Greylag wrote:

Just a theoretical question. Do property developers/racehorse owners automatically know anything about football?

Interesting that PS has advisors when buying horses and allows a qualified trainer to train them and a qualified jockey to ride them. He is successful using this system, would it work with football?

[Deereyme66]

‘exactly, in the 70s and 80s expectations were low but we supported the club and usually put out the same 11 every week in their proper positions and we used to try to win games by attacking teams and some we won and some we didn’t with possibly worse players than we have now, no 5 at the back and negative formations, even if we lost usually the opposing keeper earned his money, now we hardly have a shot at goal and it’s boring to watch with players playing out of position etc.’

That, for me, encapsulates it in one paragraph and speaks volumes. Well put Mick

[Deereyme66]

I would also say back then we knew the club was skint, so all the endeavors of club officials and players were more appreciated by the die hards when we numbered all but 1,200, on a bad day. This, in spite of much mocking by the stayaways in the playground and work, at a time the club needed support more than ever. What do we have now? A club that’s been over invested in and pumped with cash in return for someones unrealised dream, huge debt, a lot of bad feeling and disenchantment. At one point or other, most who come in leave under a cloud of some kind.

[barriethomas]

Well Misterton, I agree with most of what you said, but I will be going back ASAP. You have by the way won the prize for the world’s longest ever sentence, must be age related !! Hope you are keeping well mate ?? Have I missed Flag Day ?? UTWI. I don’t think any of our Winterton Iron flags have a fire certificate if you were wondering why you can’t see one. How do you get them flameproofed ???

[ironking]

Mick another lower point will be when we exit the Football League in the imminent future.

It will go even lower when we have an housing estate on the car park and no ground development.

Then we will all understand that the lowest point actually occurred way back in 2013 when Ernest Pawn arrived.

[mistertonmick]

I rang you this afternoon Barrie, are you always out.

[barriethomas]

I don’t always recognise numbers – you normally ring on your landline. Been having a load of Junk calls from Amazon recently.

[BobbyGmeister]

mistertonmick wrote:

After the great seasons of watching the Iron over the last 59 years, and I have seen the dark days in the 70s when we had little support and money, I have seen some great football under Laws and Nige with a few hick ups in between but the team tried hard to win games and we used create loads of chances whether we won, lost or drew, I had some great days out regardless of results land seen some fantastic players play for the club, but this last 3 seasons have been unreal, the way we got relegated 2 seasons ago with that run in when 10 points from 15 games would have kept us up to the bad start last season and the untimely sacking of Hurst because the Chairman wanted to have a bigger cull last season and bring youngsters in then,then more backs to the wall football from Russ with the home defeat to Grimsby without a shot on target looked like starting another drop down the league until Covid saved us, then the departures in the Summer and the massive recruitment of players nobody had heard of has now taken us to a new low football and results wise, we have won one game with a lot of luck and Watson finally having a good game, well it was overdue after 47 games, but now we have been conceding for fun with exciting tactics where we hardly have a shot at goal but the only grace we have is we have a few players coming back from injury and signed Junior Brown, but will it stop the rot because confidence is low and though fans were pleased when Neil Cox and Mark Lillis came back we were promised 4 4 2 exciting football and we have seen the total opposite, so if this continues I will not renew my season ticket and just go to a few games, if we are allowed back.

And now Mick?

[Anonymous]

2020

Covid 19

Lockdowns.

The year the Earth stood still ?

[Just Iron]

I am totally lost as to where the future of the club stands and have no confidence in taking a position on David Hilton … less reservation regarding Peter Swann. Things have never been worse in my 60 years of supporting the Iron. But there’s also something else going on. Huge support at the friendlies, healthy season ticket sales, Tamworth tickets going like hot cakes. Some will call it the ‘cult of Dave.’Others just blind faith. For me it’s compelling evidence that our club is rooted in the community, that we don’t have much but treasure those memories of what we so recently did have. It’s the sense that it may possibly all be gone soon … who actually knows? But the fans are just rallying to what they CAN do … and letting the rest work through. I think the word is ‘defiance’ and it may just be enough to guarantee some sort of future. I hope so.

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[mistertonmick]

Bobby I am totally baffled, we have had 5 years of setbacks but when you think we have turned the corner and got a decent squad we have problems over the ground, yet we have sold tickets for seating as well as standing, named the restaurant after a sponsor and got a new scorecard, plus season tickets for parking, it shows Peter Swann doesn’t care about the club and supporters, David Hilton has had a lot of abuse whether needed or not but nobody has give him a chance, so totally confused and was looking forward to a better season still in a division higher than starting a Phoenix club

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[Anonymous]

Let’s see how you are feeling at 5pm tonight.

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