Are the wheels coming off?

[Siderite]

Les is right. The big problem this season, as it was last season when teams figured us out, is the inability to control the midfield. What we should have done was pursue a midfielder who could do this in the summer. I don’t think keeping Butterfield would have made much difference in this regard. Sure, his passing ability to create more chances, but he wasn’t flawless. The struggles we have seen lately would not be solved with a magic Butterfield bullet.

[Apollo11]

Siderite wrote:

… the inability to control the midfield…

This is going to be crucial this season. We currently have next to no presence, there.

[Awaywego]

We all saw last season that Butterfield was declining and was not really a 90 min player anymore (funnily enough though he was putting a regular 90 in towards the end of season) but he’s better than what we’ve got now and certainly a more of auseful player to have now there’s 5 subs and certainly wouldn’t be robbing anyone of a start.
Anyway he’s gone now so it’s up to the management to find someone and someone quick and I don’t mean pace wise though that wouldn’t go amiss either.

[RoamingBull]

The wheels are still buckled yet to be straightened.

Stated a while back that Dixon was it? that ran the Warrington midfield for the majority of the game would give us something different.
We need a bully in there someone difficult to knock off the ball whilst the others lightweights feed of him.

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[Deereyme66]

And another striker. That one’s for you 414. But I’m not proposing Butterfield mk.2 in midfield I’m afraid.

[Northumbiron]

If we lose at home to Oxford City on Saturday the axle will be dragging along the road!

Most likely we’ll still be top though.

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[Sanfran49]

Said before it is not the defeats that are the problem, it is the attitude of the team when it happens.

[Rene Artois]

We’ve a slipping clutch, an oil leak from the sump, a coolant problem due to a dodgy head gasket and the bearings on a couple of wheels have gone!
Other than that…

[ironfromafar]

THEY ARE OFF ….

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[lesgeo]

I came on here to make a list – a very long list.
Sorry, guys. I haven’t got the time to make a full list. Far, far too long.
All I’ll say is that, driving into Sheffield tonight, I heard Butler’s explanation for recent disasters on the steam radio.
I was far from impressed. He seems to think he’s on the right track! He even thinks that we can make the same amount of points in the next ten games as in the first ten. If we follow this track, we’ll be out of the playoff places well before New Year.
Incidentally, got far more impressive assessments from Torps.

[Iron414]

Only a very convincing win yesterday would have been good enough, in light of the last months performances. Wheels are off, if they were ever on. Agree with Les that the humberside interview is a big worry. Too stubborn to change anything and seems to be doubling down on his decisions.

[Iron-awe]

Just because he’s not saying any change publicly ( who likes admitting their wrong particularly football managers) doesn’t mean the management team aren’t looking very thoroughly at what can be done to improve form.

[Deereyme66]

Indeed. It’s a given they will be. Hope they’re making progress with new recruits though.

[Iron-awe]

The whole point about having a united squad all pulling in the same direction is the most important thing for any club wanting success, Butler isn’t going to come out publicly and criticise his tactics or the teams overall performance this season so far just to satisfy a few who don’t understand how the ethos of a team and a football club works and anyhow being top helps him with his PR at the moment, why say anything different, it would be football political suicide.

[Iron414]

Iron-awe wrote:

Just because he’s not saying any change publicly ( who likes admitting their wrong particularly football managers) doesn’t mean the management team aren’t looking very thoroughly at what can be done to improve form.

Disagree completely. There’s plenty of excellent managers that come out after a game, hold their hands up and admit they got something wrong, whether that be formation, team selection or subs. Heard it 100s of times across all levels of football, heck even Jimmy did it last season. It shows the fans the manager is human and makes mistakes but can learn from them. Butlers insistence that the formation is right, subs were the correct ones and nothing needs to change comes across as egotistical and arrogant.

Iron-Awe I think you have been listening to too many of Butler’s interviews. He’s been telling us for months all the things he’s ‘looking at’ heard it countless times, plently of ‘looking’ not much ‘doing’ it seems.

[Iron-awe]

I am making a general comment about the majority of managers, I dispute your point about hearing hundreds of managers hold their hands up, a few maybe and maybe those with plenty of fiscal clout to change things if necessary. If you heard all his interview yesterday he did admit they could and should have done things better but if your waiting for him to say he’s got things completely wrong after where the team is after ten games then I think you have a vivid imagination at best.

[Rene Artois]

3 points from the last 4 games.
A different sized wheel at each corner.
It’s going to be a wibbly wobbly journey!

[Iron-awe]

I’m sure you’ll cope Rene.

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[Deereyme66]

From Iron Trustee, Matt Ellis:

‘As football fans we often struggle with perspective. So here’s some: Top of the league, a game in hand. One league defeat all season. Five goals conceded, only one away. Better points tally vs this time last year. A fully fit squad with no injuries. Debt almost gone. #UTI’

https://x.com/mgell1s/status/1849386187468816702?t=uFi4NFeC3hT2WuaVoLX_Ug&s=19

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[Rene Artois]

As it stands at 16:36 on Saturday 26th October 2024:

[lesgeo]

Dire defending.
Torps tearing his hair out.

[Rene Artois]

Full time.
The league as it stands this evening.

[Northumbiron]

Blimey! Only team in the top ten to lose. Got to win on Tuesday now.

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[ironfromafar]

thank lord Buddha we are off the top … no more

We are still top of the league

This clean sheets twaddle can also be consigned to the bin

If you had offered us 25 points before the season kicked off bla bla bla

If the opposition dont score you dont loose 5555555

BUT WE STILL HAVE A CLUB

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[lesgeo]

I got accused of ‘talking garbage’ in September for having the nerve to point out the many deficiencies and how we’d inevitably be a-tumblin’ down the table.

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[Iron-awe]

” Three wheels on my wagon and I’m still rolling along “.

[cassidystash]

Yes “We’re still in a strong position”
BUT not as strong as the position we were in a few weeks ago.

[WonderGoals]

Our form isn’t great though, is it ?. Butler is learning on the job, has one way of playing in which he won’t drop the 5 at the back and stupidly keeps chopping and changing players in and out.

I wasn’t really a fan of Dean, but taking into account what he had to deal with during his tenure, is Butler an improvement or a downgrade ?

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[Ironawe]

Butler can easily be better than Dean, he just needs to start acting like a manager and try and change things before and in game. It sometimes feels like managing by numbers (or that stupid XL spreadsheet) changes always seems a bit samey. Try 4-3-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-4-2 something different because we’re too easy to read and counter. He needs to start using his brains a bit because a third year in this regional shit show doesn’t need thinking about. Oh and get some bloody loan players in!!!!!

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[Iron414]

Deereyme66 wrote:

From Iron Trustee, Matt Ellis:

‘As football fans we often struggle with perspective. So here’s some: Top of the league, a game in hand. One league defeat all season. Five goals conceded, only one away. Better points tally vs this time last year. A fully fit squad with no injuries. Debt almost gone. #UTI’

https://x.com/mgell1s/status/1849386187468816702?t=uFi4NFeC3hT2WuaVoLX_Ug&s=19

Another perspective: 1 win in 6, 19th (Jesus wept!) in the form table, 4 points off being out of play off spots, given away an 8 point lead in 6 games, knocked out of the FA Cup in 3QR by a pub team, dull football, incompetent manager, worst summer recruitment window in recent history*, players and manager arguing with fans at games, failure to regularly beat part time teams made up of sparkeys, scaffolders and postmen etc, I could go on…

*based on only a single one of our new recruits has been able to establish himself in the 11 and even he is a completely liability and probably (hopefully!) won’t start on Tuesday.

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