Another what you been listening to thread

[Deereyme66]

Replacement for Hi Ho Silver Lining?

[Iron-awe]

Where do you find some of this stuff DM, weird and funny. Can’t imagine you have it in your collection but then again……….😎🎸

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BobbyGmeister

[Deereyme66]

The last track? Trying to think of songs with ‘penis’ in them and vaguely remembered the ‘detachable penis’ song! I think Queen’s Flash should be played before every home match if dickwad takes over

[Gurnelista]

Always loved this track – the studio version is originally on ‘Wired’ but sounds just as good live, here at Ronnie Scotts. Nicely recorded and filmed, too.
Spot the Wolves fan in the audience….

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Iron-awe, Deereyme66

[Iron-awe]

Wow, real mixed bag of techniques from Jeff there, string bending, trilling, tremelo, partial muting with a quick forearm/wrist jab and a few harmonics thrown in for good measure. Complete master of his craft, good post Gurny.

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Deereyme66

[Deereyme66]

Great that. Tremelo-tastic! Love a good wang bar played well!

[Iron-awe]

Deereyme66 wrote:

Love a good wang bar played well!

Is that code for detachable penis 🤔

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Deereyme66

[Siderite]

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Deereyme66

[Deereyme66]

RIP Gina. Outlived Tim by a few years.

[Gurnelista]

Funny and ireverrent, DM!
As for Clapton or Beck… maybe it needs a separate thread, but to kick off, both have immense back catalogues and have both been influential in the development of rock/pop. For me, Beck is perhaps more inventive and original but sometimes this comes at the expense of feeling/expression (though not in the hypnotic clip above). I often hear too much ‘noodling’ and virtuosity in his playing. On the other hand, as well as being perhaps the greatest guitarist, Clapton also sings and composes very well, the exception being his sentimental ballads eg Wonderful Tonight (too sickly I think).

[Northumbiron]

For some reason (probably hidden in my inner psyche) I can’t stand “Layla”.

Unfortunately, because of my age it’s often on the playlist at parties etc.

Mind you I have a whole list of what many regard as classics that have me reaching for the ear-plugs.

Anyone else have something similar?

[Iron-awe]

Stairway to Heaven for me NI, never really did get the gushing praise over it but hey if we didn’t have different opinions we wouldn’t be on here.

[Iron-awe]

To get back to Jeff and Eric, Clapton deffo the more successful commercially due to his song writing and singing, Jeff more lost in his instrument then Eric, not a criticism just an observation, he made sounds Eric could not get near but then again Eric probably wasn’t trying that hard. Both unbelievable players, you know some of the greatest players are the session musicians we very rarely hear about but who are on dozens and dozens of some of the best hits ever. The Wrecking Crew are one of the most talked about group of musicians ever in popular music, different instruments but a stack of them were guitar players. Well worth checking out how many songs they played on, mainly 60’s and 70’s but very good. Steely Dan were well served by session musicians who toured with them aswell, golden era.

[Heath]

“Mind you I have a whole list of what many regard as classics that have me reaching for the ear-plugs”.

Having spent most of the mid 70s and 80s in the pub, I also have a long list of jukebox “classics” that were constantly played by a range of people (most of them tossers).

So a life long aversion to anything by Meat Loaf, Queen, Guns & Roses, Lynard Skynrd, Boston, Chicago, the Final Countdown, thin lizzy (ok but not the same song 10 times every night), smoke on the water, stairway to heaven, the peter Frampton song and layla.

I’ll stop there as I’m sure you get the idea.

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Deereyme66

[Heath]

Like Robert Plant’s music over the last 20 years and it’s reassuring that he also hates Stairway to Heaven. The big difference is he gets paid every time it’s played.

[Iron-awe]

Apparently if you play the Stairway lick in a music shop whilst trying out guitars you get told to stop or leave. Really is that popular 😂

[Heath]

“he gets paid every time it’s played”. Does not include the millions of times it has been “played” in music shops or small bedrooms.

[Northumbiron]

My old mum worked for a while in the Bell & Anchor probably not long after it was first opened.

The jukebox thing hit her particularly badly when Wings, Mull of Kintyre came out!

Macca certainly produced a good many “arrrgh!” Singles at that time. Frog Chorus. Band on the run. That horrendous duo with Jacko!

Enough to bring you out in a cold sweat!

[Iron-awe]

Mull of Kintyre still the biggest non charity or tribute single, sold in the UK. Band Aid, obviously and Candle in the Wind 1997 version released after Diana’s death sold more. White Christmas has sold 50 million singles worldwide but just over a million in the UK since charts began. Right that enough Statto stuff from me.

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Heath wrote:

“Mind you I have a whole list of what many regard as classics that have me reaching for the ear-plugs”.

Having spent most of the mid 70s and 80s in the pub, I also have a long list of jukebox “classics” that were constantly played by a range of people (most of them tossers).

So a life long aversion to anything by Meat Loaf, Queen, Guns & Roses, Lynard Skynrd, Boston, Chicago, the Final Countdown, thin lizzy (ok but not the same song 10 times every night), smoke on the water, stairway to heaven, the peter Frampton song and layla.

I’ll stop there as I’m sure you get the idea.

I hate the eagles for that reason,where I worked two blokes had the same tape on theirs days for the machine we all chipped in for that and REO speedwagon

[Gurnelista]

Haha, some good comments, have to agree with most, Layla and other jukebox hits do tend to grate these days. Right too, about session musicians who never got/get the credit they deserve, like Jon Herrington in Steely Dan, or those guys that work with John Mclaughlin currently (Mbappe? and a lad from Leeds) and many, many others, like James Jameson on all those Tamla hits. Mind you, I still like that Jackson/McCartney song Say Say Say – especially the strong, tight brass on it. The stuff Macca did with Wings got terrible criticism at the time but needs revision, even Band on the Run (though not Mull of Kintyre)! ELO seemed a natural extension of that furrow, at least for a while.

[Iron-awe]

I’m sure Macca, despite his Wings days being disliked by some, will console himself in the knowledge that he is the most successful singer/ songwriter of all time and some of his Wings stuff helped earn him that honour.

[Gurnelista]

Amen to that! But would you agree, IA?

[Iron-awe]

I admire McCartney hugely,always have since I first heard the Beatles as a kid, right the way through to his Glastonbury set last summer. Yeah his voice is about done now but he’s 80, Sinatra was the same but he was still great to watch. Some of his Wings stuff was good, some was a bit twee, some was crap but he has adapted over the years and been successful which I believe is to be admired. My all time favourite artists are the ones who changed as the years went along and remained relevant. They didn’t go down the route some wanted them too, they did what they wanted and said ” well this is me now, if you like it buy it, if you don’t fine, I’m not changing”. I’ve always had a huge range of different musicians I like and admire as a lot of other people do but the all time greats,IMO, just stand out head and shoulders above most because of their ability to change, adapt and be successful, that’s real talent for me.

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Gurnelista

[Deereyme66]

Is this the ‘Not what I’ve been listening to thread’, or the ‘Never want to hear this track ever again thread!’

[Gurnelista]

Haha, after hearing this it’s both!
Agree with IA here, evolution does maintain interest rather than stagnation and arrogantly performing same old same old with a ‘take it or leave it’ attitude. But it sometimes poses a problem when artists want to evolve and change but fans just want the old stuff – has been a problem for Bowie, Stones, McCartney etc etc.

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[Deereyme66]

It’s been a thorn for many artists over the years. Some pull it off fantastically (Joy Division to New Order), some fail tragically (Bowie to Tin Man). Some also start of a bit pappy but majestically evolve (Talk Talk).

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Heath

[Iron-awe]

It’s concerts that provide the evolving artist with the perfect platform to do both, old and new. I’ve seen Neil Young live four times between 1987 and 2016 and yes I’m a huge fan but each concert was brilliant because of the performance and the song structure of the set. Neil always throws in four maybe five new songs in a set lasting usually up to about three hours. Last twice I’ve seen him he’s does an hour solo acoustic set which includes piano, banjo and pump organ, then around two hours with the band. Some new songs are acoustic or band structured but you get a great mix with all the fans favourites mixed in. Over so many years some of the new ones from years back have become favourites the fans shout for at later gigs, that’s the strength and longevity of the evolving talented musician IMO.

[Heath]

“(Joy Division to New Order)”.

Whilst not adding anything new, Peter Hook & the Light are a good watch usually playing whole albums in track order with lots of oomph!

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Deereyme66

[Deereyme66]

Yes, seen them a few times Heath. Not for a few years now so I’ll probably go see em again soon.

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