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Honestly think that’s the worst decision I’ve ever seen in a Scunny game. Where the hell does this league find them!?
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One of many tonight. Started when Whitehall and their defender went for the same ball and took each other out in mid air. Both landed heavily. Complete accident but referee books Whitehall.
Result; their defence spend the rest of the game trying get him sent off!
Respect to Danny tonight, kept the shithousery in check and stayed on the pitch.
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Anyone who has been on this board for any length of time knows that I support referees and was part of a panel for several decades involved in the independent reviewing and marking of refs. Balance and sanity.
I was the least qualified as a mere broadcaster. We had two statisticians, one pro ref, one local ref – and me. I learned from them. We were all on a single wavelength.
All the clear decision-making for marks was rational.
Then we come to the NLN and the gang has broken up so we cannot mark comparatively any more.
If the average mark in the EFL was a 6/10 – I declare my belief that the average in the NLN cannot possibly be higher than a three.
I see better reffing watching my granddaughter play on Saturday mornings in a very junior Sheffield League.
(The pro ref mentioned is a regular at The AA and despairs.)
Whenever you wonder whether bad anything is corruption or incompetence – 99% it’s the latter. Even so, I am witnessing bias on a very regular basis. I suspect that the situation is that the ‘little guys deserve a break against big spending Scunny.’
I fully accept that this is rarely deliberate – but ‘subconscious bias’ is an identifiable phenomenon.
In so many ways in my life, I have been trained into neutrality in my thinking and decision-making. It has served me well.
I have used this experience (hopefully) with a degree of wisdom over the years but in the face of the reffing this season, I find myself baying at appalling officials just as much as anyone else.3 users thanked author for this post.
I fully accept that this is rarely deliberate – but ‘subconscious bias’ is an identifiable phenomenon.
Exactly the same thing when Whitehall wasn’t awarded the penalty a few games ago when it was more than clear, and the referee afterwards saying that Whitehall’s game is going down easily.
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You are right it is 99% incompetence, by the refs and the system that runs them. The system for promoting refs isn’t working Les. Someone wanting to be a ref in the football league would actually take years just to get to our crappy NLN level even if they more or less got straight promotions every year. That ref last night either never played or dropped out of playing very young to be a ref, result is that he doesn’t really understand what he’s doing. He knows what gets him the marks to get promoted and goes after getting those marks.
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Unfortunately Scunthorpe fans shouting “you’re not fit to referee”, “you’re an embarrassment” or “f-ing wanker” only turns him against us more!
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You are right it is 99% incompetence, by the refs and the system that runs them. The system for promoting refs isn’t working Les.
You cannot reasonably expect a human referee to get technical decisions right 100% of the time. It’s just not possible to avoid the occasional error or even the occasional seemingly ridiculous decision. What you are entitled to reasonably expect is a high degree of competence and unbiased judgement.
Comments from the referee a few games ago (who said that Whitehall’s game is going down and that’s why he didn’t give the penalty) were alarming. In addition, last night was a disgrace – the booking of Whitehall was a joke and the disallowed goal was a tragedy.
All said, on the whole I don’t think the referees have been that good this season – but nor have they been that bad.
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You play the hand your dealt ,so to speak, we as a club dealt our own hand and ended up in a division with lesser experienced refs ,they have to learn somewhere .You cannot have two refs running around a pitch so these guys are in the worst position of all, they have nowhere to hide and awfully abusive players and fans putting untold pressure on ,often young, inexperienced humans .I do have to say our team is pretty indisciplined too.
Refs cannot be coached through games they sit an exam get trained and effectively get thrown into the limelight to learn on the job . An assessor on the side is all they get and he’s there to assess ,another pressure ,not aid
This last one was a clear mistake and as apollo says they cannot get it right all the time. Cameras and phone cameras giving every angle have only served to highlight the few mistakes they make .They make fewer mistakes than the players they referee I’d wager .If any driver for instance had that level scrutiny they’d lose their licence immediately none of us would have a licence now .
The comment regarding Whitehall shows him to be A ,human ( we’d all lean towards that if there was doubt} ) B Totally naïve, what did he think he was doing by saying that,if he actually did?
WE lost our heads ,missed chances again and lost the game,that’s not something to shy away from1 user thanked author for this post.
It was always a very real possibility that would be the case. If we don’t get out of it we can’t be blaming the officials and other clubs pitches and supposed bias against us. Though I suspect some will.
Fairer to say we couldn’t JUST blame those things as they have certainly contributed. But the lion’s share of responsibility for failure to get promoted will be with ourselves.
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Nice interview by Brad James their goalkeeper completely admitting nobody touched him and it was his mistake. Ref association needs to watch that aswell as the actually footage
It’s all very well saying it after the fact from a match-winning position, three points safely in the bank, but what about manning up and talking to the referee in the immediate aftermath? Unlikely, I know, and it would take some guts to do it. But what a man, if you did.
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