After lockdown 2

[Iron Age]

4,000 fans maximum to be allowed in tier 1, 2,000 in tier 2, none in tier 3. Unfortunately that’s where we will be going.

[Awaywego]

Yet indoor sports venues in tier 1 and 2 can have up to 50% inside up to a limit of 1000, really strange how things work.

[mistertonmick]

That’s why it is worse over here and USA, nobody wants to stick to the rules because they don’t believe what they hear from the people running it.

[Northumbiron]

Reckon the only clubs rubbing their hands together will be Plymouth and Exeter!

[bartonscorpion]

I think that people do not stick to rules is because it is so easy for them to do as they think fit, rules have to be made in order to try and control this terrible virus, but when you see gangs of people dancing in the streets and holding gatherings to show that they know better than people trying their best to end this bloody killer.

I an actually finding it a lot better sitting in my study and watching it on my computer in the comfort, rather than the car park wait for an hour before games, and then sitting peering round columns trying to monitor our 75 minutes of defending, and our two shots on target during the 90 mins, in fact I am watching the full matches now rather than leaving at the 85th min stage, yes and sitting in comfort and having a drink is a lot better, this is after having sat at our games for over 68 years, I actually get a better view on the computer as I find it difficult seeing as far as the railway end from where I sit. I do actually miss the crack of the fans near our area, but the playing system that our team now plays completely lacks entertainment value, despite Neil telling us he likes and sets the team up for playing attacking football.

[Iron-awe]

You stick to your computer BS you will be a lot safer anyway until you get a vaccination.

[alcazar]

Yes…. we’ll all be safer after being vaccinated using a vaccine that has taken nine months to develop instead of the usual 10-15 years, and whose makers are ALREADY indemnified against any problems their vaccine causes.😳
Best of luck.
I’ll take my chances, thanks.

[Iron-awe]

Times change Alcy, things improve, these vaccines are being developed by many countries throughout the world using all the latest techniques and testing programs but hey you stick in the 19th century with your mate Mogg and fester along as usual. Man of your age won’t have many chances left to take but of course it’s your choice.

[Awaywego]

Don’t you think at your age you can afford to take that chance. And just give a bit of thought to all the young ones going out of their way to help protect you and be a bit more grateful.

[mistertonmick]

It’s a lot of the young ones who helped spread the second wave.

[waltersleftfoot]

Well said Mick, I see it every day

[Awaywego]

It’s so easy to blame the young.Look at every news report down everyone’s high street, every one points out how many people are out and about forgetting that they are amongst them, but everyone has an excuse for themselves being out, so long as the elderly do as they are told, keep two meters apart, if you do go out wear a mask and don’t meet up with anyone else then you shouldn’t catch the virus.

[mistertonmick]

Everyone should keep 2 metres apart whether young or old, or 1 metre wearing a mask minimum, no different rules for young or old

[bartonscorpion]

You are correct Iron-awe, it will be safer for me at 80 YOA to stay and see games on computer right now, but I shall be as near to the front of the line as permitted when it comes to vaccination time, and all thanks should be given to the many people that have been working on, and testing these vaccines. I wanted to join the people in Hull that were testing these out, but my famiy were dead against me doing so.

But when you say it will be safer for me to stay at home rather than go to the match, this is not probably the case, because of visiting family who insist on visiting with kids, although I do shut myself into my study when the Scunny games are shown on ifollower.

Lets hope that we all come through this terrible virus.

[Northumbiron]

bartonscorpion wrote:

when you see gangs of people dancing in the streets and holding gatherings to show that they know better than people trying their best to end this bloody killer.

If the people in charge knew what they were doing you may have a point.

But when the people in charge are circus clowns who don’t even follow their own advice it’s hardly surprising.

Never had you down as an anti-vaxxer Alcy! 😂

[Anonymous]

alcazar wrote:

Yes…. we’ll all be safer after being vaccinated using a vaccine that has taken nine months to develop instead of the usual 10-15 years, and whose makers are ALREADY indemnified against any problems their vaccine causes.
Best of luck.
I’ll take my chances, thanks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55041371

[Ferrite]

alcazar wrote:

Yes…. we’ll all be safer after being vaccinated using a vaccine that has taken nine months to develop instead of the usual 10-15 years, and whose makers are ALREADY indemnified against any problems their vaccine causes.😳

A great example of how a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

[alcazar]

Second wave?
Aye.
Right.

Some simple maths for you believers:

Test 1000 people, find 6 “positives”, not much to worry about.
Test 100000 people, find 600 “positives”….oooh, oooh, the rate has gone sky high, better lock down…😅

Now add in the FACT that the much vaunted test CANNOT tell the difference between Covid 19, the flu or a common cold….SO ALL THREE COUNT AS POSITIVE, and where are we?🤔🤔🤔

[Ferrite]

alcazar wrote:

Test 1000 people, find 6 “positives”, not much to worry about.
Test 100000 people, find 600 “positives”….oooh, oooh, the rate has gone sky high, better lock down…

So we can add maths to the things you don’t understand?

[Anonymous]

This is what happens when you put your trust in your Facebook mates and scoff at those who have actual expertise in the field and make out you’re a ‘sceptic’.

[Iron-awe]

Glad your back Alcy and sparring as usual but you are talking bollocks on this matter. Oh wait, nothings changed. 😂😂😂

[Awaywego]

Alcy must be the same as me and just wanted to let the virus run, but having said that you don’t look a gift horse in the mouth and decline immunisation after all the sacrifices people have made.It would be interesting for Alcy how he see’s us getting back to normal.

[Heath]

FACT – he wrote it in big letters so it must be TRUE.

[alcazar]

Facts are facts heath, can you dispute my fact?
Maths?
Some of you still don’t see it.
I’ve never understood why left wing folk are the first to be sucked in by this sort of rubbish? Are you all so naive? Or are you so turned on by obeying your government like good little Communists…or Nazis?

As for ending, it’ll end when they FORCE us to be vaccinated.
If we don’t: no travel, no work, no shopping etc etc.
Meanwhile, those with shares in the vaccine manufacture, those vile Tories you all despise?
Billionaires. Multi-billionaires…
And if/when the side effects begin?
Not their problem….

Yet you lot support this????

[Anonymous]

What extensive side effects are worse than the disease? Zoe Phin from Facebook saying it can control your minds/give you autism/turn you into a zombie is not a rational risk. If you’d bothered to read what was done, not hysterical conspiracies about it, you’d see why such fears are overblown.

How ironic that those who warn us of coronavirus scaremongering scaremonger over a vaccine which is far less risky than letting coronavirus run riot through the population.

And kindly feck off with the references to communists and Nazis. Another irony is that the right moan about being called fascists or Nazis (who both align with the right) for nothing, yet liberally throw it around at anyone else. Being made to vaccinate and protect others from risk because of your decisions is not the same as what the Nazis or communists did and saying such is a great disrespect to the victims of the Holocaust, Porajamos, Generalplan Ost, Holodomor, the Great Purge, the Great Leap Forward and the Cambodian Genocide.

[alcazar]

Oh BRI, truth hurting is it?

Remember Thalidomide?

So the 99.997% survival rate is worse than that?

Reality check needed.
For you BRI😄

[Anonymous]

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine, was it? If you’re going to be ‘sceptical,’ could you at least try thinking about it first?

Anyone who thinks more will be hurt from a vaccine than the disease itself doesn’t have a clue. You only have to look at the stats for vaccines on every virus to see that the risk is far less.

You hurl your ‘truths’ around, but it’s this conspiracist thought which is more in common with Nazis and communists than trust and understanding of science.

If you’re going to be like that, there’s no point whining about the mean lefties disrespecting your view on this site. You’re just as self-righteous as any Corbynite when you start making out anyone who disagrees with you is an extremist.

[Northumbiron]

alcazar wrote:

Maths?
Some of you still don’t see it.

We all see it thank you.

What you are trying to say is 6/100 SOUNDS better than 600/100,000. They are of course both the same and not every Ward in the country has a population of 100,000. Our Ward is around 4,000, so I know I have to divide the number quoted by 25. However I can get the actual figure by going on the County Council website. Our Ward has zero cases as of today, yet the per 100k number is 23!

You intimate that 6/100 is okay but I beg to differ. If the R number is, let’s say, 1.5 then those 6 could infect another 9. Those nine another 14, then….

Well I’ll leave you to work it out!

The argument (which shouldn’t of course be an argument) over vaccination has sweet FA to do with party politics. All parties left, right and centre support the development of a vaccine for COVID. So any diatribe about Nazis and Communists belongs with nutters like David Icke and Piers Corbyn.

If you’ve a laptop you could while away the long winter evenings doing some genealogy. See if you can find out if any of your eighteenth or nineteenth century ancestors died of smallpox. Then ask yourself why no one dies from it now.

Oh, and BTW, you won’t be forced to get a jab. So don’t worry about turning green and growing a pair of breasts!

[Alfred]

I’ve had vaccinations for yellow fever, rabies, typhoid, tetanus, polio, meningitis, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, diphtheria, Japanese encephalitis. All have had major side-effects – I haven’t caught the diseases.

[Deereyme66]

Bringing up Thalidomide is doing the tin hat rounds. Saw it several times on social media yesterday.

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