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Let’s see. I reckon we’ll know where we are in about 6 or 7 games time Alcy. If you’re correct then enjoy it. If not .. then I certainly will.
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An almost perfect summary of our current plight.
The only sentence I’m inclined to disagree with, is the end one. Ours appears to be a story of mismanagement and incompetence rather anything more sinister- although the Jury is still out.
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Already read it earlier, been said before and it’s nowt new, It’s just another fan from another club with an opinion about a team they don’t support. Big deal, we don’t need a codhead to state the bleeding obvious do we, mind you it was on their forum and anyway who gives a f**k what he thinks.
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Alcy, thanks for posting this. The Cod is spot on. This is not a dig at you, but a few days ago you posted that you fell out with Wharton because he lacked ambition. A poster listed Wharton’s achievements against the lack of achievements by Swann.
The above article explains where we are due to being over ambitious, yet Wharton achieved without us tumbling down the league after relegation from the Championship.
Confused!!
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Thanks for the explanation. The Wharton period gave us Sharp, Keogh, Hooper, Hayes, Beckford, Murphy in a team full of experienced players.
I understand the complaint of not holding on to players, but I think it is true that it’s difficult to hold on to players who are performing well and ambitious. Agents see to that and hard to hold on to them because of the wages they could get by moving.
Hooper was scoring more than Carroll, yet Carroll was sold for over £30 million. So we could be criticised for not holding out for a higher fee.
If we had been better run over these last few years there should have been no reason why we couldn’t carry on competing with yoyo teams like Rotherham, Barnsley, Peterborough and Donny.
That second half of the season fall and playoff loss to Millwall started the slide and not getting enough or anything at all when the better players left that team.
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Alcy wrote : ‘See, this is your problem
You seem to believe that anyone criticising our club either isn’t a supporter, or, worse, is happy with the mess we are in.
It’s called a straw man argument.
look it up and learn something.’Not at all, Alcy. I think the article itself just went a bit too far in the last section. I think Peter Swann has made a massive mess by thinking he had skills and know how he didn’t possess and over reached in terms of ambition. As far as your good self is concerned I think it’s perfectly fair to say that, whatever qualifies as a ‘supporter’, you have consistently, over many years and under different Chairman, been pathologically eager to carp and criticise. I don’t recall you ever displaying any generosity or appreciation of those perceived to be ‘the establishment’ … even in the years when we punched way above our weight. Of course you are entitled to consistently and loudly criticise every generation of Scunny’s ownership whether we are the envy of every club of similar standing or … as now .. a laughing stock. Just don’t get riled when people point out that you don’t seem capable of anything but a jaundiced view of all things Iron.
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Having supported them for almost 60 years now, my jaundiced view is pretty much set in stone.
This club has always seemed to set it’s supporters up just to knock us back again.
They get going, then disappoint.
Lack of ambition? Planned relegation? Piss-poor business management skills? Who knows.But no-one should make the mistake of thinking that I actually like, enjoy, or approve of the predicament we’ve been put in by Swann’s stupidity, ego and broken promises.
I’m as devastated as the next man.But even if we escape this season, I will NEVER forgive Swann for turning us from a club others looked up to, into a laughing stock.
Nor will I EVER either believe, or trust the guy again.And nor should any sensible supporter.
He’s had his chance, messed up, and if he had even one shred of decency, he would give back the ground and land, and walk away, taking his useless rude family with him.
Sell the club for £1, and give us back our belief.
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This club has always seemed to set it’s supporters up just to knock us back again.
They get going, then disappoint.Supporters of most clubs probably say the same
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Regarding ‘matters sinister’.
Someone whose highly knowledgeable opinion I value greatly – and really knows her/his politics from the inside – has declared to me that he/she has encountered a surprisingly tiny ratio of plots in high places as opposed to the alternative explanations.
Whether this is where plots are assumed to have happened in: politics, business, high finance etc – playing the odds, apparently, you are ALWAYS safer assuming incompetence to be at the heart of the matter. It begins as the odds on favourite.Consequently – applying the logic above – this writer would wager his tenner on incompetence. Managing businesses – and football clubs which happen to be businesses – are not the same thing.
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What a sensible post.
Swann is many things, but I would suggest that incompetent is quite probably top of the list.
I will also say that his intentions have always been to improve the position of the club. Sadly, his incompetence and lack of football knowledge have led us to where we are now. The sooner he realises this the better. Let’s hope that the recent activity and the confirmation of Hill staying on regardless as the start of a change in fortune.
Regarding ‘matters sinister’.
Someone whose highly knowledgeable opinion I value greatly – and really knows her/his politics from the inside – has declared to me that he/she has encountered a surprisingly tiny ratio of plots in high places as opposed to the alternative explanations.
Whether this is where plots are assumed to have happened in: politics, business, high finance etc – playing the odds, apparently, you are ALWAYS safer assuming incompetence to be at the heart of the matter. It begins as the odds on favourite.Consequently – applying the logic above – this writer would wager his tenner on incompetence. Managing businesses – and football clubs which happen to be businesses – are not the same thing.
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