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When Ryan Reynolds realises that the percentage of his $350m personal wealth that he’s willing to have ‘fun’ with at Wrexham ain’t enough to take the club any further – what’s he going to do?
We don’t have a RRR. (Rodney).
The Trust’s notes state:
“The club has to be more profitable, it needs to increase its revenue and reduce its costs.”
Attendances
The last time the club’s average attendance exceeded 5,000 (5,548) was in season 2010-11; in the Championship. In the Championship!The mean of average attendances in the following 13 seasons is 3,857.
Our average home attendance this season is 3,850.
Our average home attendance last season was 4,204
So, we’re just a smidge over 350 per game down on last season.
Cost benefit analysis – what would we have to spend to get back to the ‘heady heights’ of the Chanpionship and an extra 1,691 (average) bums on seats each game?
You’d have to be insane to throw money at that equation!
Yet, the four directors are reported to be throwing £65,000 a month in each and every month. That’s a tad over £16k a month each if they are divvying it up equally.
Over a year, that’s a smidgin short of £200k !
How long can the present incumbents subsidise / loan that sort of money?
We’ve seen through the Swann & Hilton eras that the club is ‘worthless’ and that there is no interest in buying a small unattractive club in a town of low populace / catchment.
So, where do we go from here?
Increase attendances? How? Cheap seats & free seats don’t cut it.
26,000 of Scunthorpe’s 81,000 residents are in fuel poverty – struggling to stay warm let alone go along and watch a group of 22 guys kicking an air bag around at level 6.
32% in fuel poverty!
Football clubs don’t make profits (perhaps go and have a word with the people at Brighton!) – they are play things, ego massagers, tax ‘breaks’, there may even be occurrences or speculation of money being ‘washed’
You need very deep pockets to run a football club.P&L figures from a couple of seasons ago:
Revenue’s
The disparity is alarming!
As the Borg said “Resistance is futile!”Football is futile.
Look at Leyton that season, £6m revenue and ‘produced’ a £4m loss!
So, what does the future hold for this board, this football club and these supporters.
A realignment of hopes & expectations with reality?
Cost cutting – dirty words but it looks to be the only way that the club will maintain its existence.
Minimise the office & peripheral staff, pay freezes, re-evaluation of job content, value & efficacy, increase the use of volunteers (most clubs at our level wouldn’t exist without volunteers), minimal playing staff on ‘realistic’ wages, minimal coaches, minimal non playing staff, do we need ‘specialists’ (I don’t need a GPS monitor to tell me how hard someone has worked in a game).
Restaurant, Hospitality & Events manager
What are the P&L figures of the restaurant over the last 20 years?
Hospitality & Events – The event is the game at 3pm every other Saturday.
When you’re up shit creek without a paddle, you need to focus on the core business… the football.Which leads me on to the planned 3 day music extravaganza. So they are hoping to attract 10,000 per day to watch unknown local amateur bands and tribute bands.
So they are hoping 30,000 of the 81,000 of Scunthorpe will pay good money for this. Jesus… ain’t going to happen.3 days – 3 lots of costs – maximise your loses boys!
People who want to go to a festival want a muddy wet field where they can pitch their bivvies, smoke their happy fags and have a roll around in the sludge with a member of the opposite sex or same sex or an alien / ET.
If you really want to try it, test the water with a single event first.
How did the giant screen movie nights do a couple or three years ago?So, we are where we are. The future’s grey… but at least we’ve still got a future.
We need to learn from our recent past and not chase a delusional dream.
Let’s hunker down, play 4-4-2, play entertaining football that puts a smile on our faces and we go home happy whether we’ve won 4-3 or lost 3-4.
Only one club can win the Premier League, the pyramid below is only there to ‘feed’ the top six clubs.If breaking even each years means a prolonged stay in NLN / NL… then so be it.
UTI.
Which leads me on to the planned 3 day music extravaganza. So they are hoping to attract 10,000 per day to watch unknown local amateur bands and tribute bands.
So they are hoping 30,000 of the 81,000 of Scunthorpe will pay good money for this. Jesus… ain’t going to happen.Various parts of your post make a lot of sense, and I agree with much of what you said. Particularly in regard to the 3-day music festival.
Staging a load of tribute bands and local acts will never ever attract 10,000 people for each day. In fact, it’d be lucky to get 500 – 1,000. It represents a massive financial risk.
An outside organisation could hire the stadium and grounds for a fee and put something on with an outstanding bill, and you could probably then expect people to travel from out of town / across the region to attend. I imagine that to be the way this actually goes, rather than the club doing anything more than providing a venue.
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I haven’t got time to get through the whole of Renée’s novel but one thing it highlights is that Swann did absolutely nothing to grow crowds, even with all the money spent on players. A pretty damning indictment.
It’s worth reading as he raises some sensible points worth thinking about.
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In the recent interview on Iron Hour, Ian Sharp admitted they have made mistakes and will probably make more. I really hope this idea for a 3 day music festival at which they hope to attract a whopping 10k people a day, isn’t one of them. Can’t see that any of the board have experience of organising music events like this and it might explain the pie in the sky target. I hope they give their heads a wobble and think it through properly, and don’t rope in someone who promises the earth but ends up burning them, and ultimately the club
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Rene for ‘best thread title of the year’ award btw. Total BS that festival goers want a muddy field mind. Nothing could be further from the truth
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In the recent interview on Iron Hour, Ian Sharp admitted they have made mistakes and will probably make more. I really hope this idea for a 3 day music festival at which they hope to attract a whopping 10k people a day, isn’t one of them. Can’t see that any of the board have experience of organising music events like this and it might explain the pie in the sky target. I hope they give their heads a wobble and think it through properly, and don’t rope in someone who promises the earth but ends up burning them, and ultimately the club
It would be a massive financial risk for the club to undertake, as well as a logistical nightmare. They definitely do not have the expertise required. Just the talk of ‘tribute bands and local acts’ tells you that.
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Rene for ‘best thread title of the year’ award btw. Total BS that festival goers want a muddy field mind. Nothing could be further from the truth
Unlikely to be pipped for “longest” thread of the year title but a nailed on certainty for longest OP of the year (decade/century)
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A friend (stop laughing AWG) I went to school with has organised the annual Tribfest at Sledmete House for years. It’s his only job as he makes enough money from it to see him through the year. It’s a three day event, £82.50 per day, or £165 for all three days. As I say he’s done it for years, and it attracts around 4,000 per year, so the best of luck with attracting 10,000.
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“Outside the box thinking”
Gated Bike nights or weekends both bars open, restaurant, camping on training pitch couple of Rock tribute bands, trade stands, food outlets, bike jumble. All without using the stadium at all.
Same with the Scooter’s sub Mod bands instead
Caravan club weekend (and before you laugh they had one at Brumby hall which was well attended).
Start small and build up.Not disagreeing, just wondering how you think the club would make serious money from this?
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Mainly bar takings in the beginning obviously a small entrance fee £10 ish and like I said start small and build up. Club can Ill afford to take many risks of which a stadium gig most of us to think is a no go.
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Mainly bar takings in the beginning obviously a small entrance fee £10 ish and like I said start small and build up. Club can Ill afford to take many risks of which a stadium gig most of us to think is a no go.
12p profit a pint? – is it worth the effort?
Your casual pop in / out, 2 pints in an hour drinker will make you 24p
An 8 pint session drinker will tie a table up for say 4 hours and you’ll nearly make a full quid profit.
If someone nicks a couple of bog rolls then that wipes out that profit and leaves you in the excrement.
Stealing ornaments, accidental & deliberate damage / vandalism to seating, furnishings, fixtures etc and then either the ambience of the venue or your bank account is lowered.
Mainly bar takings in the beginning obviously a small entrance fee £10 ish and like I said start small and build up. Club can Ill afford to take many risks of which a stadium gig most of us to think is a no go.
12p profit a pint? – is it worth the effort?
Your casual pop in / out, 2 pints in an hour drinker will make you 24p
An 8 pint session drinker will tie a table up for say 4 hours and you’ll nearly make a full quid profit.
If someone nicks a couple of bog rolls then that wipes out that profit and leaves you in the excrement.
Stealing ornaments, accidental & deliberate damage / vandalism to seating, furnishings, fixtures etc and then either the ambience of the venue or your bank account is lowered.
To be fair to AWG, at least he came up with an idea. In principle it wasn’t a bad one, sounded like a potentially attractive event. But as you point out, money making opportunity might be quite low – unless the club charged a good-sized fee for the use of their land etc etc etc?
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