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  • January 30, 2025 at 3:48 pm #298202
    Apollo11Apollo11
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    No, not a ‘lost’ Bob Dylan song, but a comment on Fans64’s precis of the Trust meeting, attended by the SUFC board:

    Very high wage bill,a legacy.

    Wage bill less.

    7 players taking bulk of current budget.

    That suggests to me that there are seven players who will all probably turn down reduced terms after this season (if they’re out of contract). Along with everyone else I suspect some of those names are Fitzsimons, Whitehall, Clunan and Roberts – and I expect them to leave.

    Let’s presume we fail to achieve promotion this season…

    My first question then is, could we reasonably expect to get promoted the following season without those key men? Wouldn’t we be left with (and adding more of) your Fishburns and so on?

    My second question then is, if we do get promoted this season, what significant financial difference will there be to the club’s income, and what knock-on effect will that have to player budget? Will the buzzword still be ‘sustainability’ if we’re in NL and if so will there still, therefore, only be lower terms on the table for the players?

    If so, how could we expect to survive up a Division?

    January 30, 2025 at 4:24 pm #298204
    Rene ArtoisRene Artois
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    I have no answers.
    I don’t expect to see us return to the EFL in my remaining lifetime – approximately 15 years.

    January 30, 2025 at 4:47 pm #298206
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    Shows the dilemma caused by careless profligacy with Dave’s shiny things to placate fans strategy. We’re left picking up the pieces of his (and Swann’s) chaos and trying to progress the squad with players suitable for our level. I will say that we don’t know what’s round the corner. Stockport were down here for years, but they recovered, so it’s not all over.

    January 30, 2025 at 5:01 pm #298207
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    Siderite wrote:

    Shows the dilemma caused by careless profligacy with Dave’s shiny things to placate fans strategy. We’re left picking up the pieces of his (and Swann’s) chaos and trying to progress the squad with players suitable for our level. I will say that we don’t know what’s round the corner. Stockport were down here for years, but they recovered, so it’s not all over.

    I don’t think it’s all over, either. But I do think we need to manage our general expectations quite substantially. Whether we win promotion or not it seems we’re in a very difficult ‘holding pattern’ from which there’s little chance of escape. As I said elsewhere, I expect to yo-yo between this Division and the NL for several years. This might be as good as it can get.

    January 30, 2025 at 5:39 pm #298208
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    I’ll repeat the point I made earlier on another thread. Those high earners will not match their current earnings at any team at a level realistic to their abilities. They will be taking a pay cut wherever they’re playing next season. If they’re settled here and we can be close to any other offer they receive it’s possible that some might stay. (maybe)
    For example, it’s harsh, I know but could Fitz be retained in a player/coach capacity if we save Mussy’s wages.

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    January 30, 2025 at 5:40 pm #298209
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    We should survive in an higher division being one of the top crowd pulling teams probably 7th or 8th in that category.

    When it comes to expenditure who knows, how many clubs have the luxury of a catering manager a restaurant and office staff to cobble dogs with.

    Didn’t Dave try to reduce staff, shut the restaurant, out source the catering, open the ticket office and shop just one day a week and reduce the amount of stewards, all the things the club should be looking at, and maybe just take advantage of selling alcohol that can be drunk in the ground, from what I’ve seen scunny fans certainly like a drink. The girlie teams are going to take advantage of it why not us.

    We just can’t seem to follow the markets most tend to keep the premier events the most expensive we drop our prices (Chester game this season and last) thought the new CEO would have intervened there.

    January 30, 2025 at 7:33 pm #298229
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    Yep ,he tried to to run the club down as you just described above

    January 30, 2025 at 7:51 pm #298232
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    And that being what most fans wanted after Swanny! Change by cutting the costs for the league we’ve found ourselves in.

    January 30, 2025 at 8:14 pm #298233
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    There was a comment made stating some players would maybe resign because some prefer to have security “a longer contract” with a smaller wage. To be fair those players will be on a hell of a lot for this level.

    We’re in desperate need for further investment.

    January 30, 2025 at 8:27 pm #298234
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    How do clubs like Wycombe get to 2nd place in league 1 with tickets very similar in price to ours and average crowds only 1000 or so higher?

    How do Tamworth win our league and comfortably survive in the league above with crowds a quarter of ours?

    How many of our magnificently expensive 7 would make their first teams?

    January 30, 2025 at 8:38 pm #298235
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    MK Iron wrote:

    How many of our magnificently expensive 7 would make their first teams?

    Silly argument as Wycombe are so high up in lg 1, so you can leave them out of the equation. Roberts would more than likely get into Tamworth’s team, but apart from him I’d be struggling to name another.

    January 30, 2025 at 9:08 pm #298236
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    “How do clubs like Wycombe get to 2nd place in league 1 with tickets very similar in price to ours and average crowds only 1000 or so higher?“

    Billionaire owner.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crgy1k89zgko

    January 30, 2025 at 9:19 pm #298237
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    Your favorite player WG, Whitehall and Fitz would walk into most teams in NL.
    Don’t forget WG your hardly a good judge of a player.

    January 30, 2025 at 9:40 pm #298238
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    Thanks for answering one of my questions SYI. That probably explains it.

    Takes you back to when we used to do that stuff without the billionaire.

    January 30, 2025 at 10:13 pm #298239
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    SouthYorksIron wrote:

    “How do clubs like Wycombe get to 2nd place in league 1 with tickets very similar in price to ours and average crowds only 1000 or so higher?“

    Billionaire owner.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crgy1k89zgko

    Henning Wehn on Wycombe Wanderers…

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1TU2B8pAFb/

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